College : "C" grade analogy from professor.

I just don’t understand this logic. You’re not the only one using it. Someone has to be getting these As. What they doing? Sleeping with the professor? Black mailing them. Why are they able to get an A and you (all the yous who brought it up) not able to? I don’t really want to see what school I want to, but it was a university and I got As and made the dean’s list several times. I don’t feel I did anything someone who smart enough and willing to put the effort could not do.

We just seem to be going back to square one. Which is the C student says grades don’t matter. Just like to use a noncareer/nongrade example, the ugly person says looks don’t matter. The man with the little penis says size doesn’t matter. The big fat lady says big is beautiful. I’m not saying that those things are false. I’d take it to men a lot more if a super model said looks don’t matter, Ron Jeremy said size doesn’t matter, and skinny minie said big girls are phat. I don’t like cars. I think everyone knows that. If I said people don’t really NEED cars that wouldn’t be as effective as if some nascar winner said so. Proof is in the pudding. So to speak.

I’m kind of done with talking circles. I felt (and still feel) people on here felt their Cs were fine and dandy, until people other wise said so. There seems to be two opinions here. One is it’s not done until it’s right. The other is it’s done when I feel like it’s done. That’s my opinion and I don’t really feel it’s going to change.

I give it a C+ for effort or lack thereof.

Bunch of slacker posters these days…what ever happened to giving a 110 percent?

It doesn’t count towards my GPA. I guess I drank the kool aid and manage to SOMEHOW get As! :eek::confused::dubious:

As someone who was on the dean’s list, I do think grades matter.

Grade = D-. Your unusual use of cliches, sexual innuendo, and alternate ‘street’ spellings not to mention numerous spelling and grammar mistakes leave much to be desired in your work. I suggest you rewrite this post with style and substance more suitable to this forum and repost after diligent corrections.

Here is a small sample of mistakes.

  1. It is ‘supermodel’, not ‘super model’ unless you are really proud of your plastic airplane.
  2. Nascar is a proper noun and should be treated as such starting with a capital ‘N’.
  3. Where did Ron Jeremy say size doesn’t matter? Using an adult film star as an example is questionable on its own and you need to give relevant citations for such claims. You used two separate small penis references twice in one paragraph as a matter of fact. I am not sure what that is supposed to mean.
  4. Your second sentence is not a complete sentence.

I need to stop because the list of errors is going to be longer than your post. You get the idea. These basic English skills apply to almost all classes will knock you down way below a ‘B’ on their own for any college I studied in. Are you sure you are really about doing ‘A’ quality work no matter who your peers are or did you just come to believe that on your own?

I’m trying to think of a better analogy than painting. Maybe pole vault. The bar is set at a certain height. Your task is to vault over without touching the bar. If Bob vaults over with two inches of clearance, and then Greg vaults over with fourteen inches of clearance. Greg’s performance is much more impressive than Bob’s, but that doesn’t mean that Bob didn’t clear the bar.

If the bar is set a foot lower, and Ted and Dan and Steve clear it with three, five, and ten inches of clearance respectively, that doesn’t show that any of them are better vaulters than Bob.

In an artificial environment, you can set the bar however high you like. If virtually everyone clears the bar, you can raise it to make it more challenging. This doesn’t apply to real-world tasks like “design a bridge that won’t collapse”. If an engineer who was in the middle of the pack in school is more than sufficiently skilled to design an excellent bridge that won’t collapse, it doesn’t matter how many students scored better than him. The bridge will still be an excellent bridge.

You still don’t get it. Yes, someone will be getting the As. It could be due to their innate intelligence, or their willingness to study hard, or both. But someone will be getting the Cs. You can’t judge that person as being unintelligent or lazy unless you have a little context - like whether their university marks on a curve, or how difficult it is to achieve higher than a C in a given course, how difficult the exams are, how smart the other classmates are, etc…

Theoretically, you could have a university that only takes students who scored perfectly on the SAT, all have an IQ over 140, were all valedictorians of their high schools, and are all overachievers who love to study 60 hours per week. But, if that university grades on a curve, a certain percentage of those students will be getting Cs for the first time in their life. That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be in university, it just means the type of school they’re going to makes it insanely difficult to get good grades.

Well, maybe they could do it. Maybe they aren’t as innately intelligent, but they can work harder than you. Or maybe they’re smarter and can afford to slack off. But it matters what school you’re going to and what program you’re studying. Maybe you got by with being somewhat smart and doing a basic amount of work, but at a harder school or in a more competitive program, you would not have been so fortunate.

Now that is a ridiculous statement. Even minor sleep deprivation, only a few hours’ worth, can incur major losses in cognitive function and retention capabilities. By losing sleep to attain better grades, students are only hurting themselves in the long run, as they’re less likely to actually understand the material fully and/or long-term.

You know what? C is for cookie and that’s good enough for me.

Fixed grade scheme: score against a fixed rubric, no class quotas for grade frequencies. In this scheme, the meaning of a grade is relative performance per the fixed rubric.

A @ outstanding performance
B @ performance markedly above basic proficiency
C @ basic proficiency
D @ deficient performance
F @ clear failure to demonstrate minimal standards

Relative Grading: grade reflects performance as relative class rank.

In ye olden tymes, the C was the basic proficiency standard and A/B reflected superior performance. Under grade inflation, A is a combination of the old A and the old B, and B is the old C. Arguably, the new C may spam the old low C and the old D. In some cases, the new D spans some of the old F.