# College Football 2011 Preseason Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 17, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357 "2011-07-17T17:27:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/21 "2011-07-22T16:25:14Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Where was Auburn in last seasons preseason poll? If Cam Newton was so good, and “worthy of the under-the-table payouts” why wasn’t Auburn on the RADAR SCREEN? From the linked list: > [@](#): > > 1. Auburn > Gene Chizik had a successful first season as coach at Auburn, winning eight games, including a New Year’s Day bowl. Now he looks to lead the Tigers to an SEC West title. ETA: As for Cam, I see him and his flash at Auburn as a once-in-a-generation, if not once-in-a-lifetime, phenomenon unlikely to be repeated. If we do see somebody do in a single season what Cam did, regardless of at which school, it will be seen as a fluke and illegal and a subject of lasting hatred and spite. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/22 "2011-07-22T17:46:11Z")
Wisconsin picked up a new Quarterback from NC State. I don’t know too much about him, but some folks (som, not all) are saying he is the difference for Wisconsin this year and makes them a a favorite in ther Big 10 Division. Plus we have an awesome running game. I am just wondering which winnable game we will lose and thus take us out of any NC talk. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/23 "2011-07-22T21:11:23Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > ETA: As for Cam, I see him and his flash at Auburn as a once-in-a-generation, if not once-in-a-lifetime, phenomenon unlikely to be repeated. If we do see somebody do in a single season what Cam did, regardless of at which school, it will be seen as a fluke and illegal and a subject of lasting hatred and spite. Kind of my point. Lets assume for a second that Auburn boosters were paying for athletes to attend Auburn. Why would they invest any money in a rejected QB from Florida who was generally regarded as “damaged goods”? There is no way way Urban Meyer and the Florida staff would have let him go, (let alone go to another SEC school), if they thought the kid could was good enough to lead a team to a Nat’l Championship while winning a Heisman Trophy. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/24 "2011-07-22T22:28:21Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Another potshot at Auburn. LOL. and still nothing sticks. > > As of July 2010, How many people here (that are not SEC Football enthusiasts) ever heard of Cam Newton? I like and follow SEC Football closely, but as of one year ago, I have never heard of this young man. he was a 5-star rivals recruit to Florida. If he was showing any potential at Florida, does anyone think that Urban Meyer would have let this kid go anywhere? and in particular, to an SEC rival? IMO, HELL NO!! To be fair, who was in front of him? And I thought he was leaving Florida due to academic issues when he went to a juco. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/25 "2011-07-25T14:45:47Z")
For those who like to try to make sense of the preseason polls, a good source for how last year’s efforts developed is at > **[2010 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_rankings#Preseason_polls)** > > Three human polls and one formula ranking make up the 2010 NCAA Division I FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision) football rankings, in addition to various publications' preseason polls. Unlike most sports, college football's governing body, the NCAA, does not bestow a national championship title. That title is bestowed by one or more of four different polling agencies. There are two main weekly polls that begin in the preseason: the AP Poll and the Coaches Poll. Two additional polls are released midw... An early version of 2011’s is at > **[2011 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_rankings#Preseason_polls)** > > Three human polls and one formula ranking make up the 2011 NCAA Division I FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision) football rankings, in addition to various publications' preseason polls. Unlike most sports, college football's governing body, the NCAA, does not bestow a national championship title. That title is bestowed by one or more of four different polling agencies. There are two main weekly polls that begin in the preseason: the AP Poll and the Coaches Poll. Two additional polls are released midw... But the best collection of this year’s polls that I have been able to locate is the one at > **[2011 Preseason College Football Polls](http://www.lsufootball.net/articles/2011-preseason-polls.htm)** > > 2011 Preseason College Football Polls > (20 polls), Last updated: 08/21/2011 with an in-progress version to examine at > **[College Football Poll.com](https://www.collegefootballpoll.com/)** > > College football rankings and accurate weekly picks. Exclusive content, features, and analysis. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/26 "2011-07-25T21:58:34Z")
Sportsbook odds on who will win the SEC Championship game: (Apparently they like the Western Division a lot more than the Eastern Division Alabama 3/2 Arkansas 6/1 Auburn 75/1 Florida 5/1 Georgia 9/2 Kentucky 100/1 LSU 3/1 Mississippi 100/1 Mississippi State 25/1 South Carolina 9/2 Tennessee 30/1 Vanderbilt 100/1 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/27 "2011-08-03T15:52:18Z")
The 2011 Coaches Poll will be released Thursday 8/4/11 at 11 a.m. ET. > **[Preseason coaches poll to be unveiled at 11 a.m. ET Thursday](http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/08/usa-today-coaches-poll-top-25-preview-/1)** > > Find out the preseason No. 1 when USA TODAY coaches poll is released 11 a.m. ET today. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/28 "2011-08-03T17:01:34Z")
This year UCF joins Boise State, BYU _et al_ among the ranks of mid-major teams contending for BCS berths. > [@Zakalwe](#): > > That said, I really don’t expect us to contend for the title, but winning the ACC and going to a BCS bowl are very reasonable expectations - winning it will depend on who, but that’s not a crazy wish. Who is going to be playing quarterback, exactly? Ponder has taken every snap for the last, like, 8 years. > [@RaftPeople](#): > > To be fair, who was in front of him? And I thought he was leaving Florida due to academic issues when he went to a juco. No, he was suspended for stealing a laptop. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/29 "2011-08-03T18:24:31Z")
This is very sad: [Two Georgia HS boys](http://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school/2-high-school-football-1068806.html) have died, probably as a direct result of practicing football. As much as I like football (college mostly), I can not help but think if football was regulated like OSHA regulated industry, it would be shut down pretty quickly. There are deaths, and crippling injuries ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/30 "2011-08-03T19:26:29Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > This is very sad: [Two Georgia HS boys](http://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school/2-high-school-football-1068806.html) have died, probably as a direct result of practicing football. > > As much as I like football (college mostly), I can not help but think if football was regulated like OSHA regulated industry, it would be shut down pretty quickly. There are deaths, and crippling injuries Doesn’t some state have a mandatory time-out halfway through each quarter for games in August and September so the players can take in fluids? (I thought it was Georgia, but the Georgia state high school website does not include it in its football rules. If it was Georgia, they need to consider bringing it back.) ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/31 "2011-08-04T11:41:55Z")
> [@mkecane](#): > > **Zakalwe** , do you really think UM will be a cupcake? I’ve been fooled many a time in the past 10 years, but Al Golden sure seems to have an idea of what he’s doing. I always expect 14-0, but based on history, I’ll leave it at me think Miami should _finally_ make an appearance in the ACC-CG. 6-2 in the ACC should do it. Bring on Labor Day! Well, cupcake may be too strong a word, but yeah, I think we handle Miami fairly easily. Golden looks to be doing the right thing, but the talent pool is shallow down there right now. [QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] Who is going to be playing quarterback, exactly? Ponder has taken every snap for the last, like, 8 years. [/QUOTE] Well, except for those 4 starts EJ had year before last (going 3-1) and the 2 last year (2-0). From what I’m hearing EJ is kicking ass in practice. In other news, looks like we got Jameis Winston, the #1 QB prospect for next year! Go 'Noles! ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/32 "2011-08-04T15:16:23Z")
Roll Tide! ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/33 "2011-08-04T16:51:58Z")
[Coaches Poll](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm). OKLAHOMA! #1 votes in ( ). ```auto 1 Oklahoma(42) 2 Alabama(13) 3 Oregon(2) 4 LSU(2) 5 Florida State 6 Stanford 7 Boise State 8 Oklahoma State 9 Texas A&M 10 Wisconsin 11 Nebraska 12 South Carolina 13 Virginia Tech 14 Arkansas 15 TCU 16 Ohio State 17 Michigan State 18 Notre Dame 19 Auburn 20 Mississippi State 21 Missouri 22 Georgia 23 Florida 24 Texas 25 Penn State ``` Tale of The (Conference) Tape SEC 8 Big 10 5 Big 12 5 Pac 12 2 ACC 2 MWC 2 Independents 1 Big East 0 Big East 0 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/34 "2011-08-04T16:54:13Z")
Steve Spurrier must have lost (or given up) his voting rights. **Duke** didn’t get a honorable mention vote. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/35 "2011-08-04T17:00:55Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Steve Spurrier must have lost (or given up) his voting rights. **Duke** didn’t get a honorable mention vote. He appears on this list: > [@](#): > > The USA TODAY Board of Coaches is made up of 59 head coaches at Bowl Subdivision schools. All are members of the American Football Coaches Association. The board for the 2011 season: Gary Andersen, Utah State; David Bailiff, Rice; Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Tim Beckman, Toledo; Todd Berry, Louisiana-Monroe; Bret Bielema, Wisconsin; Art Briles, Baylor; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Gene Chizik, Auburn; Dave Christensen, Wyoming; Dave Clawson, Bowling Green; David Cutcliffe, Duke; Mark Dantonio, Michigan State; Sonny Dykes, Louisiana Tech; Jon Embree, Colorado; Larry Fedora, Southern Miss; James Franklin, Vanderbilt; Al Golden, Miami (Fla.), Jim Grobe, Wake Forest; Pat Hill, Fresno State; Brady Hoke, Michigan; John “Doc” Holliday, Marshall; Skip Holtz, South Florida; Mark Hudspeth, Louisiana-Lafayette; Rob Ianello, Akron; Pete Lembo, Ball State; Mike London, Virginia; Rocky Long, San Diego State; Dan McCarney, North Texas; Mike MacIntyre, San Jose State; Doug Marrone, Syracuse; Bronco Mendenhall, Brigham Young; Les Miles, LSU; Ken Niumatalolo, Navy; Tom O’Brien, N.C. State; Bo Pelini, Nebraska; Chris Petersen, Boise State; Gary Pinkel, Missouri; Larry Porter, Memphis; Jeff Quinn, Buffalo; Paul Rhoads, Iowa State; Mark Richt, Georgia; Mike Riley, Oregon State; Nick Saban, Alabama; Greg Schiano, Rutgers; David Shaw, Stanford; Frank Solich, Ohio;\*\* Steve Spurrier, South Carolina\*\*; Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Charlie Strong, Louisville; Kevin Sumlin, Houston; Jeff Tedford, California; Bob Toledo, Tulane; Tommy Tuberville, Texas Tech; Kyle Whittingham, Utah; Kevin Wilson, Indiana; Paul Wulff, Washington State; Ron Zook, Illinois. > > Because it is serving an NCAA-imposed bowl ban, Southern California is not eligible to receive votes this season under AFCA policy. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/36 "2011-08-04T17:21:59Z")
That’s strange, Duke used to always got a one vote preseason vote. Spurrier giving some respect to Duke, his first head coaching job in college. I guess he quit doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/37 "2011-08-04T17:25:25Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > From the linked list: > > ETA: As for Cam, I see him and his flash at Auburn as a once-in-a-generation, if not once-in-a-lifetime, phenomenon unlikely to be repeated. If we do see somebody do in a single season what Cam did, regardless of at which school, it will be seen as a fluke and illegal and a subject of lasting hatred and spite. His name is Zach Mettenburger.. he’s a big white kid with a gun for an arm (lefty) and as soon as Les Miles (LSU) gets his head out of his ass and sits Jordan Jefferson the tigers go undefeated and maul either UGA or USC in the georgia dome.. and the SEC makes it what.. six years in a row.. Big ten born.. and I can totally acknowledge that college ball begins and ends in the SEC.. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/38 "2011-08-04T17:48:43Z")
There is some twitter rumors and rumblings about current Bama QB Trent Richardson signing memorabilia at a Tuscaloosa Suit Store. The rumors are from [SportsByBrooks](http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/not-again-current-bama-qb-linked-to-suit-store-29806)whose does not have a whole lot of credibility with me. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/39 "2011-08-04T17:50:27Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > There is some twitter rumors and rumblings about current Bama QB Trent Richardson signing memorabilia at a Tuscaloosa Suit Store. The rumors are from [SportsByBrooks](http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/not-again-current-bama-qb-linked-to-suit-store-29806)whose does not have a whole lot of credibility with me. Richardson is RB, not QB. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357/40 "2011-08-04T18:14:34Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Richardson is RB, not QB. I did say that they did not have much credibility with me. See [tweet](http://twitter.com/#!/SPORTSbyBROOKS) from 42 minutes ago. at about 12:30 pm cdt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2011-preseason-thread/589357.md?page=3)