# College Football 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 2, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338 "2017-09-02T18:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/162 "2017-11-14T19:46:42Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> What was the point before the CFP or the BCS for that matter? They weren’t winning national championships then either.
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> The point is to win the games you have scheduled and make a decent bowl game so the players and fans can have fun and maybe the players can get a free education.

First, I realize it’s always been that way for the lower tier schools. But I can’t think of another sport where half of the teams competing know that before the season even starts, there is absolutely 0% chance of them winning a championship.

Would be nice if they could splinter off into another division, but I know money gets in the way of that.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/163 "2017-11-15T17:57:01Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Yes, yes and yes. Halftime scores are meaningless and USC’s and ND’s losses were on the road to highly ranked teams. OSU/Iowa was not in doubt in the 4th quarter.  
> Like how they treated Penn St? Let’s not forget just last year OSU made the playoff and didn’t even play in a conference championship game.

While using the rationale that a team must play in a conference championship game to keep TCU out a few years earlier.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/164 "2017-11-19T03:09:59Z")

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Alabama played Mercer today. :rolleyes: Do they even have a football team?

Fucking SEC.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/165 "2017-11-19T03:16:17Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Alabama played Mercer today. :rolleyes: Do they even have a football team?
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> Fucking SEC.

And Clemson played The Citadel.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/166 "2017-11-19T03:34:01Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Alabama played Mercer today. :rolleyes: Do they even have a football team?
> 
> Fucking SEC.

SEC= Schedule Easy Competition  
ACC= Another Cushy Cupcake

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/167 "2017-11-19T07:14:47Z")

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Alabama played FSU and Clemson played Auburn as non conference opponents this year.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/168 "2017-11-19T14:07:06Z")

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South Carolina plays(ed) NC State, Louisiana Tech, Wofford and Clemson as their out-of-conference opponents this year. Of those, only the Wofford game was a patsy.

Many SEC schools have a historical pattern of playing an in-state patsy the game before their Big Game of the Year[sup]®[/sup]. As long as the SEC continues to play only 8 conference games, that’s not going to change. The Pac-12 and the BiG play 9 conference games, and I’ve noticed that they seem to play fewer complete push-overs any more as a result. Noticeably, the BiG isn’t playing as many games against bottom-feeder MAC teams, not to mention Div-I FCS teams.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/169 "2017-11-19T22:12:05Z")

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> UCLA fired football coach Jim Mora on Sunday with one regular-season game left in his sixth season.
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> Athletic director Dan Guerrero announced the shocking move one day after rival Southern California’s 28-23 victory over UCLA (5-6, 3-5 Pac-12). Offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch will coach the Bruins in their regular-season home finale against California on Friday night.
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> UCLA must pay more than $12 million to buy out the remainder of Mora’s contract, which runs through 2021.

> **[UCLA fires football coach Jim Mora late in 6th season](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/11/19/ucla-fires-coach-jim-mora-after-4th-straight-loss-to-usc/107852550/)**
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> UCLA has fired football coach Jim Mora after he compiled a 46-30 record in six seasons with the Bruins

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/170 "2017-11-19T23:12:16Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> [UCLA fires football coach Jim Mora late in 6th season](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/11/19/ucla-fires-coach-jim-mora-after-4th-straight-loss-to-usc/107852550/)

Thank God. Give Fisch the job and let him grow into it.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/171 "2017-11-20T03:24:17Z")

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It seems everybody fires their coach, rights the ship, and gets the players fired up immediately before they play Cal. Seen it over and over again.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/172 "2017-11-20T04:34:50Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Thank God. Give Fisch the job and let him grow into it.

12 million bucks? Fuck…

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/173 "2017-11-20T09:09:11Z")

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I couldn’t really grasp why UCLA would fire their coach with one game left in the regular season, especially since a win there gets them Bowl Eligible, but then it hit me.

They don’t want to miss out on hiring Chip Kelly who seems to be moments away from being named the next coach at Florida.

Same thing seemed to happen a couple years ago when South Carolina was rumored to be in talks with Kirby Smart. UGA fired Richt (who had just won four in a row to finish another 9 win season) because they couldn’t miss out on the chance to bring in the coach they really wanted. Granted 9 wins may not be good enough at UGA anyway but how do you fire a winning coach except to get someone you like better?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/174 "2017-11-20T16:55:49Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> I couldn’t really grasp why UCLA would fire their coach with one game left in the regular season, especially since a win there gets them Bowl Eligible, but then it hit me.
> 
> They don’t want to miss out on hiring Chip Kelly who seems to be moments away from being named the next coach at Florida.
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> Same thing seemed to happen a couple years ago when South Carolina was rumored to be in talks with Kirby Smart. UGA fired Richt (who had just won four in a row to finish another 9 win season) because they couldn’t miss out on the chance to bring in the coach they really wanted. Granted 9 wins may not be good enough at UGA anyway but how do you fire a winning coach except to get someone you like better?

Also because of the new early signing period in December. They don’t want to lose recruits. I would still go with Fisch, a brilliant young offensive mind, and bring in a veteran defensive coordinator. We just spent 100 mil to upgrade our football and basketball facilities. We should build for the long-term future.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/175 "2017-11-21T00:24:15Z")

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I went to a casino outside of Memphis this weekend. About 1:30 pm CST, there was a 7 guys sitting at an empty blackjack table intently watching Bama blowing out Mercer. It was about 45-0 at the time.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/176 "2017-11-21T01:58:43Z")

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Predictions for CFP rankings tomorrow? I’m going to go out on a very sturdy limb and say that there’s no change in the top 5.

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**Author:** ![MartyMo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@MartyMo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MartyMo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/177 "2017-11-21T15:51:48Z")

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Kicker is horrible once again(

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/178 "2017-11-25T01:09:09Z")

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Miami loses and yet it probably doesn’t hurt them. A win against Clemson and they’re pretty much in. Unfortunately, Miami’s probably not good enough to beat Clemson.

Great game between UCF and USF.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/179 "2017-11-25T02:54:56Z")

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Here’s how it’s gonna play out:  
-Clemson will lose to South Carolina then beat Miami giving the ACC a 2 loss champion  
-Auburn beats Bama then beats UGA giving the SEC a two loss champion (and a 1 loss non-champion in Bama)  
-Ohio State beats Michigan and then Wisconsin giving the B1G a 2 loss champion (and a 1 loss non-champion)  
-Oklahoma loses to TCU giving the Big 12 a 2 loss champion  
-PAC 12 already has a guaranteed 2+ loss champion.

That’s some tasty CFP Chaos right there!

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/180 "2017-11-25T03:08:13Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> Here’s how it’s gonna play out:  
> -Clemson will lose to South Carolina then beat Miami giving the ACC a 2 loss champion  
> -Auburn beats Bama then beats UGA giving the SEC a two loss champion (and a 1 loss non-champion in Bama)  
> -Ohio State beats Michigan and then Wisconsin giving the B1G a 2 loss champion (and a 1 loss non-champion)  
> -Oklahoma loses to TCU giving the Big 12 a 2 loss champion  
> -PAC 12 already has a guaranteed 2+ loss champion.
> 
> That’s some tasty CFP Chaos right there!

That would be some serious chaos. All definitely within the realm of possibility, too.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2017/795338/181 "2017-11-25T03:42:32Z")

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I started a [Coaching Carousel thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20622283)

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