# College Football 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 10, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861 "2023-09-10T02:38:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/241 "2023-12-31T01:42:24Z")
Can the ACC now countersue Florida State? I’m sure part of the conference agreement is that they play football, something they completely failed to do tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/242 "2023-12-31T01:51:39Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > At least if they fake an injury, they’ll also be faking it to the NFL It’s less about faking injuries and more about avoiding them. A serious injury in a meaningless game (like all non-CFP bowl games are) can have significant effects on the draft. Jaylon Smith’s injury cost him close to $20 million. And given that the Broncos are benching Wilson to avoid an injury that will cost them money, the NFL doesn’t really have a leg to stand on. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/243 "2024-01-02T01:49:08Z")
As a Michigan fan: 1. That was atrocious for Michigan this year. Had to be one of the worst games of the year despite the win. 2. I’m getting too old for this anxiety and pressure. I don’t know how they do it Michigan _finally_ going to a national championship game. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/244 "2024-01-02T18:46:41Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > That was atrocious for Michigan this year. The first half was impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/245 "2024-01-02T18:49:07Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > The first half was impressive Michigan totally outplayed Bama in the first half. Yet the score was only 13-10 at halftime. At that point, I would have been very nervous had I been a Michigan fan. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/246 "2024-01-02T19:55:18Z")
> [@Jaycat.again](#): > > So, when the committee decides on the bowl matchups, are they aware of which players will not be participating? Because it certainly affects the quality of the matchups. In the Orange Bowl’s case, the committee had no choice. Of course, now that it is part of the 12-team playoff, this will change, but under the current system, the ACC champion (or, if it is in the playoff, the highest ranked ACC team not in the playoff - one year, there weren’t any, so the Orange Bowl Committee could choose any bowl-eligible ACC team) has to play the highest ranked non-playoff, non-conference-champion team from among the Big Ten, SEC, and Notre Dame. Theoretically, the committee could take “opt-outs” into account when pairing the teams in the non-playoff CFP bowls; however, nobody opts out until after they announce who the playoff teams are, and once they are announced, they aren’t changed. Well, technically, there was one possible exception: if Navy won the American Conference championship, the committee could change the one non-Power 5 Conference champion that gets in, based on the result of the Army-Navy game. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/247 "2024-01-02T20:00:30Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > > [@dalej42](#): > > > > I’d like to tie the NIL money to actually playing bowl games. > > I was thinking the same thing this week when I started seeing all the FSU opt outs. If the bowls want full participation, they’re going to have to sweeten the pot for the players themselves. Offer full insurance policies for injuries, and payouts for playing. The reason they don’t pay the players now is, (a) any non-senior would lose all remaining eligibility, and (b) even if they paid just the seniors, the NCAA would vacate the bowl appearance immediately (and any non-senior who accepted a ring for that bowl would become just as ineligible as if they had been paid). Maybe the NIL dealers can have a clause in their contracts that the deal is contingent on participating in any bowl game, but in that case, watch a school tell recruits, “Our NIL sponsors won’t care if you opt out of a non-playoff bowl in your final season!” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/248 "2024-01-02T20:41:32Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Michigan totally outplayed Bama in the first half. Yet the score was only 13-10 at halftime. At that point, I would have been very nervous had I been a Michigan fan. Indeed, I was not enjoying the game. The 5 sacks were incredible, but they missed a point after and made many other mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/249 "2024-01-02T23:13:21Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > The reason they don’t pay the players now is, (a) any non-senior would lose all remaining eligibility, and (b) even if they paid just the seniors, the NCAA would vacate the bowl appearance immediately I’ll admit I’m not well-versed in NIL regulation, but what specifically are you referring to? Players get directly paid by companies right now - what prevents either Tostitos or the Fiesta Bowl from paying anyone and everyone on the active rosters for the participating teams for appearing in an ad for the Fiesta Bowl? ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/250 "2024-01-03T00:12:26Z")
Most players who were not playing in bowl games did so because they entered the transfer portal, which essentially is the month of December. Are transfer portal players even allowed to be in a bowl game after entering? If they get injured they are even more screwed than those opting out for the NFL draft; a injury may drop you down a bit in the draft, but most of the transfer players will never make the NFL and could lose any chance of scholarship. Basically all non-playoff bowl games have turned into spring scrimmages. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/251 "2024-01-03T00:45:09Z")
The pendulum may have swung a little too far on this but that’s fine by me. Fuck the system that’s been going on for decades and all power to the players. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/252 "2024-01-03T00:59:01Z")
Agreed. I hate that players can transfer with little effort and skip bowl games at their whim, but I hate it because it interferes with _my_ enjoyment. And that’s a pretty shitty reason for me to complain about it. These are people with very different goals than mine, like avoiding injury, positioning themselves for a career, and maybe even getting an education. We’re so used to treating them like chattel that it feels unfair when they gain some control over their destiny. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/253 "2024-01-03T01:02:42Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Players get directly paid by companies right now Have I missed something? When and where does this happen? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/254 "2024-01-03T01:08:52Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > When and where does this happen? > **[What Is NIL? NCAA Rule Explained](https://www.ncsasports.org/name-image-likeness)** > > Learn about the NCAA NIL rules regarding the for-profit use of a student-athlete’s name, image and likeness for endorsements or promotions. > A NIL deal is an agreement or arrangement between a student-athlete and a third party, such as a brand, company or individual, where the student-athlete receives compensation for the use of their name, image and/or likeness. Due to NIL, if a company uses the name, image, or likeness of an athlete, that athlete can be directly compensated. In the past that was not allowed by NCAA rules. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/255 "2024-01-03T01:09:56Z")
The coaches sure as hell don’t stick around for a bowl game if they get a better employment offer. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/256 "2024-01-03T01:12:53Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Michigan totally outplayed Bama in the first half. Yet the score was only 13-10 at halftime. At that point, I would have been very nervous had I been a Michigan fan. Very similar to Washington as well. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/257 "2024-01-03T01:24:55Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > The coaches sure as hell don’t stick around for a bowl game if they get a better employment offer. You generally don’t want them to. Though it did happen a few years back when Lane Kiffin took the job as FAU’s coach but stayed around for Alabama’s playoff run as OC and main playcaller. But Alabama decided it was best he didn’t split his attention and Steve Sarkisian took over as OC for the championship game, which they subsequently lost to Clemson. So maybe it would have been better if Alabama had Kiffin stick around. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/258 "2024-01-03T13:19:42Z")
Since the BCS began in 2004, I believe there’s only been one other championship game that did not involve a team from the South; Ohio State vs Oregon in 2015. The game is more likely to involve 2 southern teams, rather than zero. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/259 "2024-01-03T16:58:37Z")
This year it’s a delayed Rose Bowl game. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/260 "2024-01-03T17:17:47Z")
The BCS began in 1998, although if I am remembering the title games correctly, the same principle of at least one Southern team each year would apply. I sorta don’t lump the University of Miami in with the rest of the South myself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861.md?page=14)