# College Football 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [September 10, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861 "2023-09-10T02:38:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/261 "2024-01-03T18:06:29Z")

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> [@SwissMan](#):
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> I sorta don’t lump the University of Miami in with the rest of the South myself.

Agreed, although it might be the southernmost university in the country.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/262 "2024-01-03T18:08:31Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Agreed, although it might be the southernmost university in the country.

Hawaii Rainbow Warriors have entered the chat.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/263 "2024-01-03T18:28:25Z")

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University of Puerto Rico sees your Hawaii and raises you three degrees of latitude.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/264 "2024-01-03T18:28:53Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> This year it’s a delayed Rose Bowl game.

I still remember the Rose Bowl’s of the 70’s and 80’s when the Big 10 champion was routinely defeated by the Pac-8/10 ( I think the Big 10 only won 3-4 times over the span of about 20 years).

Maybe this will be a throwback game?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/265 "2024-01-03T18:33:04Z")

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I didn’t think it counted since they don’t have a Division I football team.

Though if you’re strictly counting “southernmost university” without qualifiers you’re correct.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/266 "2024-01-03T18:34:43Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> I think the Big 10 only won 3-4 times over the span of about 20 years

You are correct. From 1/1/70 through 1/1/92, the Big 10 won 4 games.

> **[Rose Bowl Game | Game results](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Bowl_Game#Game_results)**
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> Winners appear in boldface while italics denote a tie game.
> Team rankings are taken from the AP Poll (inaugurated in 1936, prior to the 1937 Rose Bowl) before each game was played.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/267 "2024-01-03T18:58:01Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> University of Puerto Rico sees your Hawaii and raises you three degrees of latitude.

The University of Guam would beg both your pardons.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/268 "2024-01-03T19:13:16Z")

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Not a real University IMO.

(I say as a former Guam resident.) 😉

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/269 "2024-01-03T19:37:44Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> > The reason they don’t pay the players now is, (a) any non-senior would lose all remaining eligibility, and (b) even if they paid just the seniors, the NCAA would vacate the bowl appearance immediately
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> I’ll admit I’m not well-versed in NIL regulation, but what specifically are you referring to? Players get directly paid by companies right now - what prevents either Tostitos or the Fiesta Bowl from paying anyone and everyone on the active rosters for the participating teams for appearing in an ad for the Fiesta Bowl?

Never thought about it that way. The Pop-Tarts Bowl might get away with paying NIL for using photos of the winning team eating the giant Pop-Tart after the game. The problem with that might be, the NCAA may not be too happy with the fact that it was limited to the winning team.

There is a detailed NIL proposal up for a vote at the upcoming NCAA Convention. One of the provisions is, the deal cannot be contingent on the athlete’s athletic participation. For example, a deal cannot be revoked if a football player opts out of a bowl game. It also cannot be offered on the condition that an athlete does not transfer.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/270 "2024-01-04T00:03:46Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> The problem with that might be, the NCAA may not be too happy with the fact that it was limited to the winning team.

I so desperately want the NCAA to make a huge fuss about the winning team being the only team that got to eat the giant Pop-Tart.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/271 "2024-01-04T00:18:57Z")

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I can almost see it now…“Well, we would have looked the other way, but it was a Frosted Pop-Tart, so that makes it an illegal benefit. In order to restore eligibility, all players will lose one day of per diem (which is the usual penalty for things like not showing up at a mandatory post-tournament-game press conference, or publicly complaining about tournament officials). Oh, and the team gets a two-year bowl ban for loss of institutional control.” Some of us remember the “the training table can have bagels, but there had better not be any cream cheese on them” incident.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/272 "2024-01-04T00:50:16Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Well, we would have looked the other way, but it was a Frosted Pop-Tart, so that makes it an illegal benefit.

I was honestly wondering what kind of Pop-Tart it was.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/273 "2024-01-04T00:53:27Z")

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It was strawberry!

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/274 "2024-01-04T01:04:10Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I was honestly wondering what kind of Pop-Tart it was.

> [@Chingon](#):
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> It was strawberry!

My last year in the Navy I (finally) lived off the ship while we were in port. Breakfast was two (untoasted) Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon Pop Tarts and a can of Budweiser. It’s an acquired taste.

But Frosted Strawberry would not have worked. However much I like them now.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/275 "2024-01-10T22:36:47Z")

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Nick Saban is retiring, reports say:

> <https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/1745207336816234529?t=exfhqAPaHxbR2AAMgQxcKA&s=19>

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/276 "2024-01-10T22:49:46Z")

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Another link.

> **[Sources: Alabama football coach Saban retiring](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39281202/alabama-crimson-tide-football-coach-nick-saban-retiring)**
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> Nick Saban, considered among the greatest college football coaches of all time who won six national titles at Alabama, is retiring, sources told ESPN's Chris Low.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/277 "2024-01-10T23:31:20Z")

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Let the coaching carousel begin!

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/278 "2024-01-11T00:05:24Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Nick Saban is retiring, reports say:

Ahhh, makes this year’s Rose Bowl victory that much sweeter!

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/279 "2024-01-12T00:39:15Z")

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Looks like FSU is going to get hammered with NIL infractions. Of course the NCAA picks FSU instead of other more corrupt schools

> <https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1745601926371451296?s=46&t=KEWgwenxgQmz-pLDK_DMFQ>

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/280 "2024-01-12T19:51:02Z")

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> **[Alabama reportedly negotiating with Washington's Kalen DeBoer to replace Nick...](https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2024/01/alabama-reportedly-negotiating-with-washingtons-kalen-deboer-to-replace-nick-saban.html)**
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> The Crimson Tide has reportedly found its 28th head coach in program history in DeBoer, who led Washington to a College Football Playoff national championship appearance.

I’ve heard he’s the front-runner at the moment.

He’d make sense as a hire. Great record and he got UW to the championship in what seemed like the speed of light.

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