# College Football 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 10, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861 "2023-09-10T02:38:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/61 "2023-10-10T01:12:42Z")
That’s reminiscent of the Marx Brothers football game in Horsefeathers. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/62 "2023-10-10T17:23:48Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Miami would be well within their rights to fire him Monday morning. Wow. Just watched the link. You are right. And revoke scholarships from every offensive player, bench the QB and Backs for not knowing better themselves. That was as ugly as those uniforms. It’s pretty embarrassing when the Play-By-Play guys coach better than the Knucklehead on the sideline. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/63 "2023-10-10T17:24:41Z")
Yes the offense screwed up, but the defense lost that game. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/64 "2023-10-10T17:27:51Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > And revoke scholarships from every offensive player, bench the QB and Backs for not knowing better themselves. Eh. Miami has historically gotten a lot of heat for having players who “don’t respect the game” and other mildly racist dog whistling phrases. At the very least, they can hold this up as a “our players respect and listen to their coaches”. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/65 "2023-10-11T19:52:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/66 "2023-10-14T05:18:39Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I am personally hoping that Sanders succeeds at Colorado. I can’t help but think that as soon as he uses the program to farm his kids off to the Pro’s that Boulder won’t see him from the dust of his hasty departure. All the Prime talk? Think Prime numbers. 1 or 3. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/67 "2023-10-14T06:27:12Z")
Only time I was happy to see Stanford win unless they were playing Notre Dame. That was some sublime shit, right there. I was watching it, saying to myself, _“Yeah, but they are still going to lose”…_ And then they didn’t. Edit: Did they fuck up the OT rules? Shouldn’t have Stanford had the first go in Second OT? Don’t they invert the order every overtime? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/68 "2023-10-14T16:21:28Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Shouldn’t have Stanford had the first go in Second OT? Don’t they invert the order every overtime? I can’t find the cite right now, but this morning I read that the team that wins the coin toss chooses whether to go on offense or defense to begin the first OT. Then the other team has the option for the second OT. Colorado won the toss, and Sanders chose to go on offense in the first OT, reasoning that scoring a TD puts the pressure on the other team. Which is what happened, but Stanford also scored a TD to tie the game again. Then, in the second OT, Stanford had the choice, and they chose to start on defense. When CU threw a pick, all Stanford had to do was kick a FG, which they did to win the game. ETA: I also read that Colorado did the same thing against Colorado State. That time, it worked for them. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/69 "2023-10-14T17:08:57Z")
The conventional wisdom is that, if given a choice, you want to start an OT possession on defense. This puts the decision-making pressure on the offense – when facing 4th and short do you kick the FG or go for it? Whatever your opponent does, when you get the ball you know exactly what you need to do to win and don’t have to make any decisions. Either Deion doesn’t agree with the conventional wisdom, or he just blew it. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/70 "2023-10-14T17:16:28Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Either Deion doesn’t agree with the conventional wisdom, or he just blew it. Yeah, I’ve never seen a team opt to start on Offense. I’m also unaware of any option for Second OT. It’s always been the reverse of the first. But watching Colorado is like a whole different sport. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/71 "2023-10-14T17:18:09Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Either Deion doesn’t agree with the conventional wisdom, or he just blew it. He’s done it twice. Worked the first time, but not the second. Here’s the quote from the article I read this morning from _The Athletic_. It’s paywalled. > Knowing what is needed to win is a massive strategy advantage for offenses when the team with the ball in the top half of overtime fails to score. Deion Sanders believes the pressure his offense can add by putting points on the board outweighs that. He’s not alone, but few coaches agree with his controversial strategy, no matter how reliable their offense and quarterbacks are. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/72 "2023-10-14T17:22:13Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I’m also unaware of any option for Second OT. It’s always been the reverse of the first. As I mentioned earlier, the team that lost the coin flip has the option in the second OT. From this [link](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/college-football-overtime-rules-2023-format/4a5576cd7d74df0496219127): > Overtime begins with a coin toss to determine which team starts with the ball in overtime, with the visiting team calling the toss. The winner of the coin toss can either play offense or defense to start, or can opt to choose which side of the field it wants to start. There is no deferral. The team that loses the toss has to make the remaining decision, and then has the first pick to start the second overtime. The team that won the first coin toss will pick for any even-numbered overtime periods, and the team that lost the coin toss will make the decision in every odd-numbered period. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/73 "2023-10-14T19:38:20Z")
Kent State, in their game against Eastern Michigan, chose to start the game with a surprise onside kick. It was returned for a touchdown. > **[Kent State's opening onside kick fails miserably - ESPN Video](https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=38658082)** > > Kent State attempts an onside kick to start the game, but Eastern Michigan scoops it up for a touchdown. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/74 "2023-10-14T21:30:16Z")
Any doubt that Washington vs Oregon is a playoff game? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/75 "2023-10-14T21:43:16Z")
Aren’t those reserved for SEC teams? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/76 "2023-10-15T03:33:10Z")
[ESPN publishes a story](https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/38633075/2024-nfl-draft-caleb-williams-usc-quarterback-strengths-rankings-comps-stats) in which they breathlessly gush about every way that Caleb Williams is the greatest QB prospect ever, a combination of the best of Rodgers and Mahomes, just for him go out and shit the bed against Notre Dame. I mean he’s probably still going to be a good player, everyone has a shit game from time to time, but it’s just fun to see the ESPN hype machine get badly exposed. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/77 "2023-10-15T16:43:11Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > …fun to see the ESPN hype machine get badly exposed… Wasn’t fun to see Southern Cal exposed. At the rate they are going, might be lucky to get a mid-shit bowl bid. I can easily see 4 more loses by the end of the season. They look worse every week. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/78 "2023-10-15T17:04:10Z")
In 2 weeks Caleb Williams gets to throw against the Cal secondary, which will make everyone feel better about USC’s season. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/79 "2023-10-15T17:12:37Z")
Maybe. But the next two weeks after that, I’m predicting they get over 100 points hung on them. Hell, they are probably going to be effectively done next week. But it’s okay. Williams is a Millionaire. He’s going to be alright. ---
**Author:** ![ZamboniAce1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@ZamboniAce1000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZamboniAce1000)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2023/989861/80 "2023-10-15T22:59:45Z")
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