# College Football 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [March 1, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326 "2024-03-01T18:06:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/361 "2025-01-11T03:12:30Z")

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Another excellent game tonight.

Texas just tied the game 14-14 with 3:12 to play in the 3rd quarter.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/362 "2025-01-11T03:56:35Z")

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Buckeyes run a quarterback fumble for an 82-yard touchdown.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/363 "2025-01-11T05:15:13Z")

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Great. Now we have two of the most reviled avid fan bases to ignore, block out, mute tolerate expounding upon their team’s success (because of them - the alumni 🙄).

I suppose the SEC ( **S.E.C.!, S E C !!, SssEeeeCeeeee !!!** , Kiffin, Saban …) blathering on might be worse. I see no winners in the current dystopian college sport world. I despair.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/364 "2025-01-11T06:52:35Z")

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OSU didn’t beat Xichigan this year. What do these bowl wins even matter? ☹

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/365 "2025-01-11T07:21:59Z")

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Up vote, star, multi-thumbs. You win the tread today!

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/366 "2025-01-11T12:41:48Z")

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Two good semi-final games in which the outcome of both was largely determined by a major offensive mistake late in the game.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/367 "2025-01-11T14:21:48Z")

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I wish there had been a PSU-OSU final but am quite pleased that for the for the second straight year there is no SEC team in the final. Give OSU credit. Two straight PI calls put Texas first and goal from the one and OSU not only stopped them cold, they got a defensive touchdown. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen that before. I can only wonder how in blue blazes did this team lose to a 6-5 Michigan team?

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/368 "2025-01-11T14:59:24Z")

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The Texas play calling on that first and goal series from the one was some of the dumbest I’ve seen all year. You have four tries to go one yard. This isn’t complicated, guys.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/369 "2025-01-11T16:10:11Z")

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Buckeyes do indeed have the look of a No. 1 but let us not forget that their opponent in the final lost at home to the seventh place team in the MAC.

Good teams have bad days.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/370 "2025-01-11T16:40:24Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> OSU didn’t beat Xichigan this year. What do these bowl wins even matter?

At least among my Ohio State friends, Coach Day’s job is in jeopardy unless he wins the National Championship.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/371 "2025-01-11T22:22:48Z")

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As an Ohio State fan, I want to beat Michigan as much as anyone. That being said, there’s no way I would trade a 7-5 season and a crappy bowl game win and a win over Michigan with what is happening right now.

If they beat Notre Dame, they will have wins over 5 top 5 teams and wins over 6 teams that are in the top 10.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/372 "2025-01-21T05:12:01Z")

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This Buckeye is happy with the game result. Notre Dame had a great opening drive, with Ohio State unable to stop them. But after that it was a Buckeye game, with only a few great plays by ND to keep things interesting.

Coach Day secures his job for another year.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/373 "2025-01-21T18:11:58Z")

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OSU was dominant in the postseason when it mattered. A convincing victory and it’s nice that there were no calls or fluke plays that made the difference. Two titles in a row for the Big Ten, that’s also nice. I’d like to make it three in a row next year, but this time in green and white.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/374 "2025-01-22T16:46:35Z")

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The first, and possibly only, winner of this year’s “The NCAA recognizes us as National Champions, it says so right here, yes it does” award appears to be Oregon, who was ranked #1 in the final Wolfe rankings. Note that Oregon itself has not made this claim (at least not yet), but a number of sources have noted this.

For those of you not familiar with the story, the 2017 Central Florida team was ranked #1 in the final Colley rankings, and the NCAA has a “[Football Bowl Subdivision Records](http://fs.ncaa.org.s3.amazonaws.com/Docs/stats/football_records/FBS.pdf)” document online that lists “Final National Poll Leaders” that includes Central Florida in 2017; apparently, some people treat this as evidence that “the NCAA recognizes UCF as a 2017 national football co-champion.” This is why UCF’s stadium has “NATIONAL CHAMPIONS 2017” inside of it, and the players were given “National Championship rings” that were not considered “illegal benefits” by the NCAA. (The reason the NCAA has no problem with the latter is, these were actually authorized for something else - either a conference championship or a bowl appearance - and since there is no NCAA FBS football championship, the NCAA looks the other way when schools do this; Auburn did the same thing in 2004 with its SEC championship rings that also say “National Champions.”)

Oregon does have one reason _not_ to claim any NCAA validity in this; the NCAA can respond, “You want us to move the next few NCAA Outdoor Track & Field Championships to, say, Franklin Field _how_ badly?”

Also note something else; nothing prevents the players from having their own “National Champions” rings designed, and paying for them themselves with their NIL money.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/375 "2025-01-22T19:07:17Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> The first, and possibly only, winner of this year’s “The NCAA recognizes us as National Champions, it says so right here, yes it does” award appears to be Oregon, who was ranked #1 in the final Wolfe rankings. Note that Oregon itself has not made this claim (at least not yet), but a number of sources have noted this.

That goes back to the old debate of a champion vs. the best team. Ohio State is obviously the champion. Whether or not they are the best team is a different question. The 2007 NFL season is probably the best example of how those can be two different teams, but there are plenty of others.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/376 "2025-01-22T19:59:45Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> That goes back to the old debate of a champion vs. the best team. Ohio State is obviously the champion. Whether or not they are the best team is a different question. The 2007 NFL season is probably the best example of how those can be two different teams, but there are plenty of others.

If you want to talk about “champion versus best team,” then make a case for Division III champion North Central of Illinois, which was the only undefeated team in the entire NCAA - furthermore:  
North Central beat Whitworth  
Whitworth beat Eastern Oregon  
Eastern Oregon beat College of Idaho  
College of Idaho beat Montana Tech  
Montana Tech beat Georgetown KY  
Georgetown KY beat Cumberland TN  
Cumberland TN beat Florida Memorial  
Florida Memorial beat Edward Waters  
Edward Waters beat Lane  
Lane beat Savannah State  
Savannah State beat Clark Atlanta  
Clark Atlanta beat Bethune-Cookman  
Bethune-Cookman beat Mississippi Valley State  
Mississippi Valley State beat Florida A&M  
Florida A&M beat South Carolina State  
South Carolina State beat Tennessee Tech  
Tennessee Tech beat Tennessee-Martin  
Tennessee-Martin beat Kennesaw State  
Kennesaw State beat Liberty  
Liberty beat East Carolina  
East Carolina beat North Carolina State  
North Carolina State beat North Carolina  
North Carolina beat Minnesota  
Minnesota beat Illinois  
Illinois beat Michigan  
Michigan beat Ohio State

In fact, the only teams that North Central cannot draw a chain of victories to are (a) the members of the New England Small College Athletic Conference (none of which were undefeated), which never play out-of-conference games and do not enter the NCAA Division III tournament, and (b) the two teams that were in the NAIA championship game, both of which were undefeated outside of that game.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/377 "2025-01-23T01:50:59Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> If you want to talk about “champion versus best team,” then make a case for Division III champion North Central of Illinois, which was the only undefeated team in the entire NCAA

I’m comfortable crowning them as the champion.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/378 "2025-01-23T04:05:20Z")

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I completely forgot about the final game and missed it entirely. Tequila was involved.

I’ll take the Fuck Eyes over the other team any day.

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