# College Football 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [March 1, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326 "2024-03-01T18:06:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/101 "2024-10-16T00:06:55Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Well, [Lanning confirmed](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41802259/dan-lanning-says-ducks-purposely-induced-12-men-penalty-late) that it was a deliberate move by Oregon to put 12 men on the field for that play so show’s what I know. If it was deliberate, why stop at 12; is there a more severe penalty for 37 men on the field? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/102 "2024-10-16T00:14:24Z")
Well, really. As soon as the ball is snapped, send your entire roster on the field. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/103 "2024-10-16T00:24:53Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > If it was deliberate, why stop at 12; is there a more severe penalty for 37 men on the field? > [@Railer13](#): > > Well, really. As soon as the ball is snapped, send your entire roster on the field. I would guess that the NCAA has some version of a “mockery of the game” rule which would result in much more than a 5-yard penalty; up to and including forfeit of the game instantly or disqualification of every player past the original 11 which would often include a 1-game suspension for the next game. I would also imagine your conference might have a thing or two to say about it. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/104 "2024-10-16T00:42:13Z")
From what I’ve read, the NCAA rulebook includes an unsportsmanlike conduct foul when a team commits blatant and obvious “unfair acts” designed to waste time at the end of the game. Referees are then to assess a 15-yard penalty and may take any action they deem necessary to right the wrong (including rewinding the clock). ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/105 "2024-10-16T00:45:10Z")
Yep. That’s the sort of rule I was thinking of. Basically, “fix it and fuck those guys”. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/106 "2024-10-16T01:42:21Z")
It’s called a palpably unfair act, and weird things happen when they’re called. Like in the 1956 Cotton Bowl Classic when a guy came off the Alabama bench in the middle of a play to tackle and prevent a touchdown. The touchdown was awarded anyway. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/107 "2024-10-16T22:36:59Z")
The NCAA has just announced a new rule “interpretation” to cover this. In the last two minutes of each half, if the defense has 12 men in the play (but not necessarily just “12 men on the field,” if somebody is trying to run off before the snap), then, in addition to the 5 yards, the offense can ask that the clock be moved back to where it was at the snap, and it will not start again until the next snap. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/108 "2024-10-17T01:04:03Z")
Damn, I guessed last season it would work. I certainly didn’t have “last weekend it would work” on my bingo card. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/109 "2024-10-17T06:55:43Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > I would guess that the NCAA has some version of a “mockery of the game” rule Uh… Colorado is one Line Two, holding… ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/110 "2024-10-17T09:21:33Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Colorado is one Line Two, holding Do you mean ‘ **on** Line Two, holding’? And, if so, to what exactly are you referring? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/111 "2024-10-17T13:03:51Z")
Oklahoma State, which began the season in the Top 25, started 3-0 but has lost all 3 of its Big 12 games. Their coach, Mike Gundy, took another hit during their bye week when he was headbutted…by a cow. > **[Cowpoke: Gundy injures eye after run-in on ranch](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41798106/oklahoma-state-coach-gundy-injures-eye-ranch)** > > On the heels of three straight losses, Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy took another hit during the Cowboys' bye week, suffering an unusual eye injury that forced him to move his weekly, in-person news conference to Zoom on Monday morning. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/112 "2024-10-17T13:56:32Z")
The purposeful penalty that ends up being advantageous to the fouling team somewhat reminds of that 1976 Celtics-Suns NBA Final game, where the Celtics were up by one with one second left and the Suns out of timeouts. However, the Suns called a timeout anyway because it resulted in one free throw to the Celtics, the Suns get the ball back and inbound at half-court, plus they get time to recompose and draw up a play in between. It resulted in the Celtics making the one free throw and the Suns inbounding it to score a game-tying two point shot (would have been a three-pointer were it three years later.) The rules were changed so that the fouled team retains possession after the free throw. (I hope I have that right—I’m not the biggest basketball person but I remember that as a famous play.) Oh, the Celtics ended up winning eventually. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/113 "2024-10-17T17:23:26Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Oh, the Celtics ended up winning eventually. Yes, in triple overtime. Often referred to as the greatest game in NBA playoff history. And, yes, you have everything right. (I think!) [Top Moments: Celtics outlast Suns in triple-overtime Finals thriller | NBA.com](https://www.nba.com/news/history-top-moments-celtics-oulast-suns-in-3ot-finals-thriller) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/114 "2024-10-19T21:09:53Z")
My 16th-ranked Indiana Hoosiers improved to 7-0 by stomping a mud hole In Nebraska on national television. It was a joy to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/115 "2024-10-19T23:18:32Z")
Navy 6-0! Fear The Goat! We are coming for you Notre Dame! ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/116 "2024-10-19T23:59:56Z")
How is what Oregon did much different than a losing basketball team fouling the winning team in the last minutes of the game? Big Picture, essentially the teams are breaking the rules to gain an advantage in order to better their chance at winning. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/117 "2024-10-20T01:42:16Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > essentially the teams are breaking the rules to gain an advantage in order to better their chance at winning. Quite true. However, in Oregon’s case, it was exploiting a loophole in the rule, which has already been changed. It also directly lessened the opponent’s chances to win the game. Fouling to stop the clock is a time-honored strategy in basketball. And the opponent still has essentially the same chance to win the game. Technically, I suppose, not ‘much’ different. But still somewhat different, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/118 "2024-10-20T01:46:13Z")
Longhorns looking hapless at home at the half. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/119 "2024-10-20T02:34:14Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Longhorns looking hapless at home at the half And now it’s a game after 3 quarters. I have no idea how the officials can reverse a DPI call, however. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326/120 "2024-10-20T03:38:12Z")
Yep, Texas showed some real grit coming out of the locker room after the half but couldn’t keep it up. What a game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-2024/998326.md?page=7)