# College Football Belt -- Who's next?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 13, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490 "2011-01-13T18:30:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/41 "2011-01-18T04:40:57Z")

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It seems the NCAA has taken down the '04 information. This is from a fanblog copying a writer for the Huntsville times:

Quote: \*January 10, 2005  
Auburn had toughest schedule of BCS teams

After pundits spent the last week or so beating up on Auburn for it’s weak schedule, John Pruett from The Huntsville Times checked the official NCAA stats and found Auburn got a bum rap. In fact, Auburn had the fifth toughest schedule in the country (pdf).

Despite playing Louisiana-Monroe (5-6), LA Tech (6-6), and DI-AA The Citadel, Auburn finished as the highest rated BCS team in strength of schedule by the NCAA official statistics.

Texas A&M was #1, followed by North Carolina, Arizona, Arizona State, and Auburn. Where did the BCS title game teams rank? Oklahoma’s schedule was ranked 11th and USC’s was 18th. \*  
[http://www.fanblogs.com/sec/004779.php](http://www.fanblogs.com/sec/004779.php)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/42 "2011-01-18T05:26:33Z")

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Jeff Sagarin’s Football rankings for [the 2004 Season](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt04.htm):

USC 7th  
OU 13th  
Auburn 60th

I cannot find archival info for the other BCS polls (Wolfe, Massey, Colley, Billingsley, Anderson/Hester)

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/43 "2011-09-02T17:20:39Z")

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The poll is still open and new teams are in place to give Auburn a run for the money (belt) so what’s your pick?

We can use this thread (or spinoffs) to follow the Belt through the season.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/44 "2011-09-02T17:54:15Z")

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Feeling pretty good about calling Mississippi State to take the Belt so long ago. GO STATE!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/45 "2011-09-02T18:53:44Z")

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Thanks for reopening this thread. It appears that **cwntoo** did join the dope to only trash the SEC.

For the record, I predicted Clemson would be the next team.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/46 "2011-09-02T19:09:56Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Thanks for reopening this thread. It appears that **cwntoo** did join the dope to only trash the SEC.

That’s some serious hate, I’d say. He also got into the “live chat” thread during the Oregon game. Nice guy!

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/47 "2011-09-18T14:45:44Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Thanks for reopening this thread. It appears that **cwntoo** did join the dope to only trash the SEC.
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> For the record, I predicted Clemson would be the next team.

And you were right. Hopefully they only get to have it for 6 days though. The ‘Noles are a comin’ to town…

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/48 "2011-09-18T15:04:06Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> And you were right. Hopefully they only get to have it for 6 days though. The ‘Noles are a comin’ to town…

To save opening a new thread with a poll at the top, we can refer to

> **[The Best of Recruiting and High School Sports](https://www.on3.com/rivals/)**
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> Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database.

and see this schedule:

Sat, Sep 24 (5) Florida State  
Sat, Oct 1 at (13) Virginia Tech  
Sat, Oct 8 Boston College  
Sat, Oct 15 at Maryland  
Sat, Oct 22 North Carolina  
Sat, Oct 29 at Georgia Tech  
Sat, Nov 12 Wake Forest  
Sat, Nov 19 at North Carolina State  
Sat, Nov 26 at (10) South Carolina

It would appear thet the SEC won’t have a direct shot at Clemson’s hold until Nov 26, so it might be fun to calculate the quickest route back to the SEC by way of these potential holders of The Belt.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/49 "2011-09-18T15:45:26Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To save opening a new thread with a poll at the top, we can refer to  
> [The Best of Recruiting and High School Sports](http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/ccl)  
> and see this schedule:
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> Sat, Sep 24 (5) Florida State  
> Sat, Oct 1 at (13) Virginia Tech  
> Sat, Oct 8 Boston College  
> Sat, Oct 15 at Maryland  
> Sat, Oct 22 North Carolina  
> Sat, Oct 29 at Georgia Tech  
> Sat, Nov 12 Wake Forest  
> Sat, Nov 19 at North Carolina State  
> Sat, Nov 26 at (10) South Carolina
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> It would appear thet the SEC won’t have a direct shot at Clemson’s hold until Nov 26, so it might be fun to calculate the quickest route back to the SEC by way of these potential holders of The Belt.

As near as I can tell, 11/26 is the first shot for the SEC and that’s only if Clemson hangs on to it or if FSU (vs UF), GT (vs UGA), or WF (vs Vandy) takes it from them. If someone else takes it or the ACC wins whatever SEC matchup puts the belt on the line, then it’ll have to be a bowl game.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/50 "2011-09-18T15:47:28Z")

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There are four ACC/SEC matchups on the last weekend of the year, but I don’t think there is any until then. Clemson, FSU, GT, and WF all play an SEC team at the end of the year. There might be circuitous routes through a couple of non AQ team back to the SEC, but that is unlikely.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/51 "2011-09-18T21:15:40Z")

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The only team Clemson plays who subsequently has a non-ACC game before the last weekend is Maryland who plays Notre Dame on Nov 12. God forbid Clemson makes it past FSU and VT to lose to Maryland and then the belt somehow ends up in Notre Dame’s hands that late on the season.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/52 "2011-09-18T21:29:14Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> The only team Clemson plays who subsequently has a non-ACC game before the last weekend is Maryland who plays Notre Dame on Nov 12. God forbid Clemson makes it past FSU and VT to lose to Maryland and then the belt somehow ends up in Notre Dame’s hands that late on the season.

Well, since Auburn hadn’t lost to Clemson since 1951 (!) it might make for some startling shakeup to history for Notre Dame to reclaim The Belt 20 years since their last time: [http://collegefootballbelt.com/Schools/Notre%20Dame%20Stats.htm](http://collegefootballbelt.com/Schools/Notre%20Dame%20Stats.htm)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/53 "2011-09-18T21:57:20Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> The only team Clemson plays who subsequently has a non-ACC game before the last weekend is Maryland who plays Notre Dame on Nov 12. God forbid Clemson makes it past FSU and VT to lose to Maryland and then the belt somehow ends up in Notre Dame’s hands that late on the season.

You just made me sick to my stomach.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/54 "2011-09-19T01:16:35Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> You just made me sick to my stomach.

Fear not, I have it on good authority (ie me after watching the FSU/OU game, damn those dudes were fast!) that clemson will be losing badly to FSU next week and that Florida will be taking it away from them at the end of the season. Unfortunately, since Florida will not be in the SEC championship game/National Championship game, we’ll have to see who their bowl match-up is before determining how quickly South Carolina can reclaim the Belt.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/55 "2011-09-19T01:29:22Z")

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Hmm, it’s interesting to consider ways in which South Carolina could reclaim the Belt that don’t include playing an undefeated Clemson team on Nov 26 (I get sick thinking about that!). Assuming the Belt ends up in the ACC championship game, South Carolina would have to be an SEC champ with one or more losses (and the SEC West beats itself up) meeting the ACC champ in a (non-champonship) BCS bowl (not gonna happen with the Sugar and Orange tie-ins) or South Carolina would have to meet the ACC champ in the BCS Championship game (also very unlikely).

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/56 "2011-10-16T21:35:08Z")

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Anybody see a way for Clemson to lose The Belt this season?

Sat, Oct 22 North Carolina  
Sat, Oct 29 at Georgia Tech  
Sat, Nov 12 Wake Forest  
Sat, Nov 19 at North Carolina State  
Sat, Nov 26 at South Carolina

Looks like South Carolina might get it back, and if they do that would make for their having it three times since Oct/2010. Clemson has held the belt longer than anybody since Alabama, from whom USCe won it to start with.

See [http://collegefootballbelt.com/Seasons.htm](http://collegefootballbelt.com/Seasons.htm) for more trivia.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/57 "2011-10-16T23:48:16Z")

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Georgia Tech, maybe. They lost this week, but were previously undefeated…

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/58 "2011-10-17T00:09:05Z")

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Wake has a decent enough team this year too.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/59 "2011-10-30T03:33:58Z")

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Georgia Tech now has The Belt for their first time!

[http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm](http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-belt-whos-next/567490/60 "2011-10-30T03:52:19Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Georgia Tech now has The Belt for their first time!
> 
> [http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm](http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm)

Damn, I hate that!!

My guess: Virginia Tech gets it next! Because we cannot win two big games in a row. at least we got an off week. And it is in Atlanta.

“Lord love a Duke” if they get the Belt in three weeks.

remaining games for GT

Va Tech 11/10  
Duke 11/19  
Georgia 11/26

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