# College Football Coaching Carousel - 2017-18

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 25, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641 "2017-11-25T03:41:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/21 "2017-11-26T22:27:02Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Chip Kelly is at UCLA? What’s the over/under for seasons until recruiting violations occur?

He didn’t commit any. An assistant paid a 7 on 7 coach to direct prospects his way. Kelly was charged as leader of the organization and for lack of oversight.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/22 "2017-11-27T01:10:24Z")

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I’m so excited about Kelly. UCLA\_recruiting posted a pic on Twitter of Kelly already in the office recruiting. Warm those millions Chip.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/23 "2017-11-27T01:41:37Z")

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[Tennessee isn’t hiring Schiano after all](http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21579125/tennessee-volunteers-no-longer-hire-greg-schiano-head-coach) - too many protests that he was a Penn State assistant at the same time as Sandusky, so he must have known, denials notwithstanding.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/24 "2017-11-27T01:51:08Z")

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Campus protests apparently put the kibash on the Schiano to UT deal.

```auto

School Out In
Arizona State Todd Graham	
Arkansas Brett Bielema
Florida Jim McElwain Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern Tyson Summers
Kent State Paul Hanes
Mississippi Hugh Freeze
Mississippi State Dan Mullen (to UF)
Nebraska Mike Riley
Oregon State Gary Andersen
South Alabama Joey Jones
Tennessee Butch Jones [del]Greg Schiano[/del]
UCLA Jim Mora Chip Kelly
UTEP Sean Kugler

```

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/25 "2017-11-27T02:01:12Z")

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You can add Texas A&M to the list of “outs”. Kevin Sumlin was fired today and it’s being reported that the deal is already set for Jimbo Fisher to take over the program. If it’s true\*, then we need to start the full court press and try to grab Frost. It’d be a very different situation here - all the advantages that UF had to offer, but not as much downside.

\*And part of me hopes it is, I’m sick of hearing Jimbo as the candidate for every other fucking school - if he’s not happy here then fuck him, let Saban whip his ass EVERY year and see how long he lasts. Suck the money tit while you can Jimbo, you’ll never win a National Championship at TA&M. Oh, and please take fucking Trickett with you. Thankseversomuch.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/26 "2017-11-27T02:07:20Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Maybe it’s time for the B1G and Big 12 to swap Nebraska for West Virginia, and let them both recruit better in their more natural regions.

Not sure what you mean there, but as a Nebraska alum, I’d rather the US rejoin Great Britain than UNL rejoin that barrel of monkeys.

[And speaking of the Huskers…](http://www.ketv.com/article/espns-chris-fowler-nebraska-to-land-scott-frost-deal-done-for-awhile/13929541)

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/27 "2017-11-27T02:25:02Z")

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```auto

School Out In(leading rumor)
Arizona State Todd Graham	
Arkansas Brett Bielema
Florida Jim McElwain Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern Tyson Summers
Kent State Paul Hanes
Mississippi Hugh Freeze (Matt Luke)
Mississippi State Dan Mullen (to UF)
Nebraska Mike Riley (Scott Frost)
Oregon State Gary Andersen
South Alabama Joey Jones
Tennessee Butch Jones [del]Greg Schiano[/del]
Texas A&M Kevin Sumlin (Jimbo Fisher)
UCLA Jim Mora Chip Kelly
UTEP Sean Kugler

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/28 "2017-11-27T14:55:47Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> [And speaking of the Huskers…](http://www.ketv.com/article/espns-chris-fowler-nebraska-to-land-scott-frost-deal-done-for-awhile/13929541)

That’s in conflict with the other “sources” saying he was considering Florida’s entreaties just this weekend.

We’ll find out Saturday after the AAC title game.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/29 "2017-11-27T20:56:03Z")

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BTW, I’ll start checking [flightaware.com](http://flightaware.com) starting Saturday morning to see if there are any flight plans filed for a bizjet to Lincoln from Orlando. That will be a surer sign than any media rumors.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/30 "2017-11-27T21:12:52Z")

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A true fan would already know the tail numbers for tracking their team’s private jet!

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/31 "2017-11-27T21:32:15Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Tennessee isn’t hiring Schiano after all](http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21579125/tennessee-volunteers-no-longer-hire-greg-schiano-head-coach) - too many protests that he was a Penn State assistant at the same time as Sandusky, so he must have known, denials notwithstanding.

I had never heard his name connected to the Sandusky stuff at all, so was very surprised that Tennessee fans were protesting. I’m near Columbus and never heard a peep from anyone about this when OSU hired him for D coordinator.

Did the Tennessee AD not know about this? Is it a real concern? Will anyone accept a job offer from Tennessee now?

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/32 "2017-11-28T00:11:07Z")

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Still can’t believe UCLA (and their athletic department) had the fortitude to fire Mora and then grab Kelly. First time I’ve really been thrilled about my team in awhile.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/33 "2017-11-28T08:39:39Z")

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Updated to include Rice firing David Bailiff and rumors of Beau Baldwin going to Oregon State.

```auto

School Out In(leading rumor)
Arizona State Todd Graham	
Arkansas Brett Bielema
Florida Jim McElwain Dan Mullen
Georgia Southern Tyson Summers
Kent State Paul Hanes
Mississippi Hugh Freeze (Matt Luke)
Mississippi State Dan Mullen (to UF)
Nebraska Mike Riley (Scott Frost)
Oregon State Gary Andersen (Beau Baldwin)
Rice David Bailiff
South Alabama Joey Jones
Tennessee Butch Jones         
Texas A&M Kevin Sumlin (Jimbo Fisher)
UCLA Jim Mora Chip Kelly
UTEP Sean Kugler

```

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/34 "2017-11-28T12:35:42Z")

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Am I the only not getting USCDiver’s helpful posts as an actual table? It’s just a long run of text without returns for me. Using Chrome (and tried IE).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/35 "2017-11-28T13:22:50Z")

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It works in Firefox.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/36 "2017-11-28T18:52:01Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Am I the only not getting USCDiver’s helpful posts as an actual table? It’s just a long run of text without returns for me. Using Chrome (and tried IE).

Are you using the new SDMB skin? The Code tag doesn’t work well at all in it. You can change back to the old theme via the pull down menu at the bottom left of any screen.

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/37 "2017-11-28T19:24:26Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I know he’s an alum but I’d think carefully about that move. Nebraska’s not the big show it was under Tom Osborn. It’s definitely possible to have the occasional 10-win season but what Huskers fans want is a championship and they’re not being reasonable in their expectations. They want Nebraska to dominate like they did in the Big 8 days, and it’s just not that easy now.

I agree, and saying that as a Husker fan. We were merciless booing Scott Frost when:

1. He chose Stanford over Nebraska out of high school (wanted to learn under Bill Walsh)

2. Was involved in the Lawrence Phillips debacle (long story)

3. Had the nerve to break our 25-game winning streak by losing (How dare he not be Tommie Frazier in his second start)

4. Watched the backup QB get a TD, then had the nerve to get put back in the game by his coach. (We were winning and he got booed)

The minute Husker fans realize he is not Devaney/Osborne in the Big 8, don’t think for a second they won’t turn on him. We are not that jaded after 19 seasons without a conference title or big bowl game. We Husker fans think our slump is temporary and the right coach will get us back to “normal”.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/38 "2017-11-28T22:40:02Z")

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Tenn fans just used the Sandusky stuff because they knew that was easier than saying Schiano was a bad coach. They were bashing him before it even came out that he was at Penn State.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/39 "2017-11-29T03:36:31Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> Are you using the new SDMB skin? The Code tag doesn’t work well at all in it. You can change back to the old theme via the pull down menu at the bottom left of any screen.

Son of a…

Thanks!

FYI, rumor around T-town is that Jimbo is gone. But that the next coach is lined up and will be announced right after he (the new coach) finishes his game this weekend.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/40 "2017-11-29T07:25:24Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> FYI, rumor around T-town is that Jimbo is gone. But that the next coach is lined up and will be announced right after he (the new coach) finishes his game this weekend.

That’s interesting. I’m trying to think which school that has a game this weekend would have a coach interested in leaving for FSU (especially given that many of the teams playing this weekend have a good chance of making the CFP with a win).

Here’s some possibilities:  
UCF, although Scott Frost already linked to Nebraska  
Memphis, although Mike Norvell is reportedly negotiating an extension with Memphis and has also been tied to Arkansas

Oh shit. FAU is playing Saturday, aren’t they?

It’s going to be Lane Kiffin, isn’t it?

I was hoping to see Tennessee grovelling at his feet to come back to Knoxville when no one else would take their job.

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