# College Football Coaching Carousel - 2017-18

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 25, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641 "2017-11-25T03:41:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/61 "2017-12-01T05:35:59Z")

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Now Mike Leach rumored to have been offered Tennessee job.

And [this](http://footballscoop.com/news/tennesseed-it/)funny spoof of a Steve Buschemi scene

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/62 "2017-12-01T12:54:05Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> Some are expecting Jimbo to make an announcement ahead of the game this weekend after pressure from the FSU administration.

The way he’s talking now, he’s out too. And no one would blame him - the FSU job is another coach-killer with an impossible fan/booster base.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/63 "2017-12-01T16:45:32Z")

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the latest is Tenn has canned their AD because of the screwed up search

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/64 "2017-12-01T17:04:18Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> Now Mike Leach rumored to have been offered Tennessee job.

I don’t think he’s going anywhere. He likes WSU and they like him. He’s the reason why that team is actually competitive now (they briefly led the Pac-12 before losing the Apple Cup). And the guy who he interviewed with got fired. I’m guessing Leach wants more money (and now has a record to earn it) and showing the school that others might want him is a good bargaining chip.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/65 "2017-12-01T17:09:29Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Tenn fans just used the Sandusky stuff because they knew that was easier than saying Schiano was a bad coach. They were bashing him before it even came out that he was at Penn State.

Truly disgusting what went on there. Letting mob rule happen because some students want someone like Gruden who is never going to be there. Schiano has always been a coach with integrity and there is absolutely no evidence linking him to the Sandusky crimes. He made a bad pro coach because he still had too much of a college mentality but he is a good college coach and recruiter.

> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> the latest is Tenn has canned their AD because of the screwed up search

Good.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/66 "2017-12-01T17:46:14Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> the latest is Tenn has canned their AD because of the screwed up search

Not only that, but there are rumors that Phil Fulmer was acting behind the scenes to sabotage the job search in order to get Currie fired so he could become the next AD! What a mess, I’m surprised their whole recruiting class hasn’t bailed yet.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/67 "2017-12-01T18:35:18Z")

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Jimbo is out, Good Night and Thank You! [Jimbo Fisher leaving FSU for Texas A&M](http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/football/2017/12/01/florida-state-coach-jimbo-fisher-leaving-take-texas-a-m-head-coaching-job/898018001/)  
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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/68 "2017-12-01T20:51:34Z")

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Removing some parentheses

```auto

School Out In
Arizona State Todd Graham (Herm Edwards)
Arkansas Brett Bielema
Florida Jim McElwain **Dan Mullen**
Florida State Jimbo Fisher to TAMU (Willie Taggert)
Georgia Southern Tyson Summers **Chad Lunsford**
Kent State Paul Hanes
Mississippi Hugh Freeze **Matt Luke**
Mississippi State Dan Mullen (to UF) **Joe Moorhead**
Nebraska Mike Riley (Scott Frost)
(Oregon) (Willie Taggert)
Oregon State Gary Andersen **Jonathan Smith**
Rice David Bailiff
South Alabama Joey Jones
Tennessee Butch Jones (Dave Doeren)
Texas A&M Kevin Sumlin Jimbo Fisher
UCLA Jim Mora **Chip Kelly**
(UCF) (Scott Frost to Nebraska)
UTEP Sean Kugler

Rumors and domino effects in parentheses. Official hires in Bold

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/69 "2017-12-01T20:55:42Z")

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Doeren re-upped at NC State. Tenn goes back to blank.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/70 "2017-12-01T21:23:58Z")

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You know it’s panic mode when they bring back an alum which Tenn did for the AD with Fulmer. Which also means they are likely to settle for an alum as coach whether or not that person can do the job.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/71 "2017-12-01T21:41:46Z")

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Peyton’s available. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/72 "2017-12-01T21:44:41Z")

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Back when Dean Smith retired and his assistant stepped down UNC wasted all kinds of time only talking to guys who played for Smith and they hired an unqualified guy who was fired in 3 years.

It turns out Smith himself told them don’t only talk to alums.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/73 "2017-12-01T21:57:27Z")

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My goodness, who will go to Tennessee? Les Miles? Doubtful. Tee Martin!?! He’s only ever been a position coach until this year (OC at USC).

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/74 "2017-12-01T23:51:48Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> I agree, and saying that as a Husker fan. We were merciless booing Scott Frost when:
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> 1. He chose Stanford over Nebraska out of high school (wanted to learn under Bill Walsh)
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> 2. Was involved in the Lawrence Phillips debacle (long story)
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> 3. Had the nerve to break our 25-game winning streak by losing (How dare he not be Tommie Frazier in his second start)
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> 4. Watched the backup QB get a TD, then had the nerve to get put back in the game by his coach. (We were winning and he got booed)
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> The minute Husker fans realize he is not Devaney/Osborne in the Big 8, don’t think for a second they won’t turn on him. We are not that jaded after 19 seasons without a conference title or big bowl game. We Husker fans think our slump is temporary and the right coach will get us back to “normal”.

You’re not wrong, I’m afraid. Riley pretty much had to go after the blowouts endured this year and the loss to Northern Illinois, but NU has a quick trigger. Devaney was hung in effigy after finishing 6-4 in 1968. Husker fans called for Osborne’s head continually during the 1980s “Bridesmaid” years. If Frost comes home, it will be a lovefest until game one. Then watch out.

That said, I’d be very surprised if he’s not coaching in Lincoln next year. [They seem to have accepted this in Orlando.](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/open-mike/os-sp-scott-frost-ucf-nebraska-cornhuskers-20171130-story.html)

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/75 "2017-12-02T02:28:53Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Doeren re-upped at NC State. Tenn goes back to blank.

Yep, updated from my phone and missed that one.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/76 "2017-12-02T03:06:31Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I know this might draw some snark but I actually thought Jim Mora Jr didn’t do a bad job with UCLA. I can’t remember the Bruins ever being a national championship contender - not in recent memory anyway. They were kinda good when they had Troy Aikman. They’ve had a few talented players here and there, but the super teams were always at USC. Mora at least turned a program that was a perennial doormat and at times over the past 5 years made them somewhat competitive. He came into college football probably not knowing a ton about that recruiting process and while Los Angeles does have football talent, it’s not the Gulf Coast. Perhaps he could do well in a place like UCF or Florida Atlantic, assuming those positions open up. Perhaps after a year or two he could take a job with a bigger program in the Southeast.

How many jobs has Jim Mora been linked with?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/77 "2017-12-02T03:17:45Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Jimbo is out, Good Night and Thank You! [Jimbo Fisher leaving FSU for Texas A&M](http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/football/2017/12/01/florida-state-coach-jimbo-fisher-leaving-take-texas-a-m-head-coaching-job/898018001/)  
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The winners:

Jimbo Fisher, who turned getting fired into getting hired by another big school.

Florida State, who turned getting fired and having to pay for two contracts to pushing Jimbo out the door.

The loser:

Texas A&M. I know Jimbo will probably win 8, 9, and once in a while ten games, but Aggieland is bringing Jimbo in to win a title and that’s not going to happen. If he’s struggling to win championships at FSU, he’s not going to have an easier time at A&M.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/78 "2017-12-02T03:22:20Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> How many jobs has Jim Mora been linked with?

None, but I still think Mora would be a good hire for the right school if he wants the job. Who would have thought Pete Carroll would have been a good hire for USC in 1999? Who would have thought he would have been a good hire for Seattle in 2010? Coaches evolve and develop. I’m not saying Mora’s a coaching god or that he’s necessarily the best hire out there. But let’s face it: UCLA was a shit program when he took it over and he made them competitive, at least some of the time. You’re going back a long way talking about how the Bruins beat Paul Hackett’s (LOL) Trojans. Hell, when the Bruins were beating the Trojans back in the 1990s, the Trojan Condom Company seriously considered suing USC for defamation and misuse of copyright. After all, their product is about fucking on Saturday nights, not getting fucked on Saturday nights.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/79 "2017-12-02T04:59:50Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The winners:
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> Jimbo Fisher, who turned getting fired into getting hired by another big school.
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> Florida State, who turned getting fired and having to pay for two contracts to pushing Jimbo out the door.
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> The loser:
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> Texas A&M. I know Jimbo will probably win 8, 9, and once in a while ten games, but Aggieland is bringing Jimbo in to win a title and that’s not going to happen. If he’s struggling to win championships at FSU, he’s not going to have an easier time at A&M.

Huh? You must not be an FSU fan. Jimbo didn’t get pushed out, his seat wasn’t even getting warm. He quit to chase more money. And not only don’t have to pay his salary, he has to pay FSU for any of his coaches that we don’t retain. Latest estimate I’ve seen is that he (TA&M) has to pay a couple million.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-coaching-carousel-2017-18/802641/80 "2017-12-02T13:38:28Z")

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Rumor: Mike Norvell from Memphis to Arkansas, following today’s UM-UCF AAC title game.

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