# College football fans: how's your team look?

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**Created:** [August 21, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968 "2010-08-21T14:47:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/201 "2010-10-24T15:35:37Z")

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Week 8 – Top Teams

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Oregon (1) 4-0 7-0 Pacific-10  
Boise State (2) 2-0 6-0 Western Athletic
Oklahoma (3) 2-1 6-1 Big 12 South  
TCU (4) 4-0 8-0 Mountain West  
Auburn (5) 5-0 8-0 Southeastern West 
LSU (6) 4-1 7-1 Southeastern West  
Alabama (7) 4-1 7-1 Southeastern West  
Michigan State (8) 4-0 8-0 Big Ten  
Utah (9) 4-0 7-0 Mountain West  
Wisconsin (10) 3-1 7-1 Big Ten  
Ohio State (11) 3-1 7-1 Big Ten  
Stanford (12) 3-1 6-1 Pacific-10  
Iowa (13) 2-1 5-2 Big Ten  
Nebraska (14) 2-1 6-1 Big 12 North  
Arizona (15) 3-1 6-1 Pacific-10  
Florida State (16) 4-0 6-1 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Oklahoma State (17) 2-1 6-1 Big 12 South  
Missouri (18) 3-0 7-0 Big 12 North 
South Carolina (19) 3-2 5-2 Southeastern East   
West Virginia (20) 1-1 5-2 Big East  
Arkansas (21) 2-2 5-2 Southeastern West  
Texas (22) 2-2 4-3 Big 12 South  
Virginia Tech (23) 4-0 6-2 Atlantic Coast Coastal 
Mississippi State (24) 2-2 6-2 Southeastern West 
Miami (FL) (25) 3-1 5-2 Atlantic Coast Coastal   

Nevada 1-1 6-1 Western Athletic  

Hawaii 4-0 6-2 Western Athletic  
Northern Illinois 4-0 6-2 Mid-American West 

Baylor 3-1 6-2 Big 12 South
Temple 3-1 6-2 Mid-American East 

East Carolina 4-0 5-2 Conference USA East  

UCF 3-0 5-2 Conference USA East   

Fresno State 3-1 5-2 Western Athletic 
  
North Carolina State 2-1 5-2 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Maryland 2-1 5-2 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Syracuse 2-1 5-2 Big East 
Southern Miss 2-1 5-2 Conference USA East 
San Diego State 2-1 5-2 Mountain West 

Kansas State 2-2 5-2 Big 12 North  
USC 2-2 5-2 Pacific-10  
 
Michigan 1-2 5-2 Big Ten  
Northwestern 1-2 5-2 Big Ten   

Navy 0-0 5-2 Independents (FBS)  

Toledo 4-0 5-3 Mid-American West 
 
Ohio 4-1 5-3 Mid-American East 

Georgia Tech 3-2 5-3 Atlantic Coast Coastal 
Air Force 3-2 5-3 Mountain West 

UTEP 2-3 5-3 Conference USA West 

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/202 "2010-10-24T17:31:37Z")

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Like we can’t cover on ST for shit. It hurt the last 6 games, lost us this one.

6-1

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/203 "2010-10-25T01:48:32Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> EE. And I’ll even give you 3 points.

I owe you $5.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/204 "2010-10-25T02:30:25Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> I owe you $5.

Double or nothing on Oregon State?

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/205 "2010-10-25T18:06:43Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Double or nothing on Oregon State?

Seriously? Oregon State is favored by 3 at this point, and more importantly, we are playing _away_. I think we can beat them, but the Away Curse is strong this year…

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/206 "2010-10-25T19:51:02Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> Seriously? Oregon State is favored by 3 at this point, and more importantly, we are playing _away_. I think we can beat them, but the Away Curse is strong this year…

Hey, we beat them in Corvallis in 2004 and 2006. That’s practically _ownage_.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/207 "2010-10-26T03:59:11Z")

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Well, just joining, but to the OP: My point-a-minute Duckies look pretty damn awesome, BCS computers be damned!! Hoping to keep it going against USC this weekend.

**@USCDiver** : I always assumed it was for U of Southern Cal until reading this thread. Now I regret all those votes to lynch you.😃

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/208 "2010-10-26T05:15:33Z")

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I’m blowing off Nevada Day festivites _and_ a funeral to watch 'SC knock off the Ducks this weekend!

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/209 "2010-10-26T14:28:59Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Well, just joining, but to the OP: My point-a-minute Duckies look pretty damn awesome, BCS computers be damned!! Hoping to keep it going against USC this weekend.
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> **@USCDiver** : I always assumed it was for U of Southern Cal until reading this thread. Now I regret all those votes to lynch you.😃

Haha! No worries. Like we always say, you don’t need the Trojans if you don’t have the Cocks.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/210 "2010-10-26T14:54:03Z")

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The [six computers rankings](http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs) have Oregon at 8,6,10,6,6,11.

the computers obviously are dissing Oregon’s schedule. Looking at their schedule, thus far, I can see why:

New Mexico 0-7  
Wash St 1-7  
Portland St 2-5 Div I-AA  
Tenn 2-5  
UCLA 3-4  
A-State 3-4  
Stanford 6-1

Including Stanford @ 6-1, Oregon’s opponents have 17-32 total combined record,

Tennessee is terrible, only two wins are against UAB and UT-Martin.

Wash St only win is against Montana St (Div I-AA).

the Lobos have only been close to winning one game, and that team is New Mexico St, who has only one win, against the Lobos.

Portland St’s only two wins are against 1-6 Idaho St and 3-4 UC Davis.

The quality of Oregon’s opponents, and the quality of the Oregon opponents are just not all that good.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/211 "2010-10-26T15:22:01Z")

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Bama still looks fine. They thumped Tennessee this weekend (I know. Whoop-de-doo.) Thank God we have a bye this week, and LSU the week after.

Vs. Auburn - Sheesh. It’s looking like this might be an Iron Bowl to remember. Cam Newton is one hell of a player.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/212 "2010-10-26T15:28:47Z")

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Looks like I’ll soon be changing my Location to “Home 2010 Big Ten FB Champs”. MSU has got to get it up for Iowa and find a way to win, then sweep up a couple of cupcakes in Minnesota and Purdue and wrap it all up with a first-ever win at Happy Valley. My one fear is that Paterno will announce his retirement, making the MSU game his last ever home game and fire up the team.

As far as the title game goes, I’m realistic enough to know the planets must align perfectly. A 1 loss SEC champ has a political edge over a 12-0 Big 10 team, so I’m hoping for Oregon to lose, LSU to beat Alabama and Alabama to beat Auburn, and have Auburn lose the SEC title game.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/213 "2010-10-26T15:37:04Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> As far as the title game goes, I’m realistic enough to know the planets must align perfectly. A 1 loss SEC champ has a political edge over a 12-0 Big 10 team, so I’m hoping for Oregon to lose, LSU to beat Alabama and Alabama to beat Auburn, and have Auburn lose the SEC title game.

You’d also have to leapfrog the 2 BCS-Busters. Not that that wouldn’t be unlikely.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/214 "2010-10-26T16:28:04Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> You’d also have to leapfrog the 2 BCS-Busters. Not that that wouldn’t be unlikely.

I can’t imagine a 12-0 Big Ten team being passed over by BSU or TCU.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/215 "2010-10-26T16:30:10Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I can’t imagine a 12-0 Big Ten team being passed over by BSU or TCU.

In the BCS rankings, #3 - #5 are BSU, TCU, MSU. It’s the Big Ten team that has to pass the others, not the other way around.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/216 "2010-10-26T16:46:14Z")

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TCU, if they beat UTah, will bypass BSU and be the more likley BCS buster, if you will.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/217 "2010-10-26T16:54:57Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> In the BCS rankings, #3 - #5 are BSU, TCU, MSU. It’s the Big Ten team that has to pass the others, not the other way around.

I believe the Strength of Schedule (SOS) factor of the computer rankings is a cumulative. As Michigan State plays (and wins obviously) the rest of their schedule, the computers will be giving them more respect.

Boise has only played 6 games, so the additional games will help them, but they are all relatively weak. Nevada losing was not a help to their cause.

The cumulative aspect of the SOS is another reason why conference want a conference championship game. The extra game is huge for SOS.

If Missouri runs the table (winning at Nebraska and winning at Texas Tech) and then they beat a one loss Oklahoma again, the computers might ranked them #1.

As **Gangster Octopus** pointed out, TCU will get a boost if they can beat Utah.

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> In the BCS rankings, #3 - #5 are BSU, TCU, MSU. It’s the Big Ten team that has to pass the others, not the other way around.

The pollsters are not going to rate a 12-0 BSU or TCU above a 12-0 MSU. When your biggest win on the schedule is against a team that lost to James Madison, strength of schedule is going to kill you. Plus I don’t expect them to run the table anyway.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/219 "2010-10-26T17:21:51Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> The pollsters are not going to rate a 12-0 BSU or TCU above a 12-0 MSU. When your biggest win on the schedule is against a team that lost to James Madison, strength of schedule is going to kill you. Plus I don’t expect them to run the table anyway.

That team that lost to JMU is in position to win the ACC Conference. The computers do not factor “perceived” weakness in the ACC, only actual weakness. IF Va Tech goes on to win the ACC, and beating FSU in the Conference Championship, it will be a big boost to Boise St.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/220 "2010-10-26T21:20:30Z")

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Boise State has a much tougher remaining schedule than Michigan State. They play Hawaii, Nevada, and Fresno State. Hawaii and Nevada are ranked 26 and 27 this week and will probably be in the top 25 next week. Iowa is only ranked 18, and Purdue and Minnesota are terrible. Penn State was the single most overrated team in the country this year. They struggled to beat Minnesota last week and MN is the worst team of any major conference save New Mexico.

As a Big Ten guy, I too find it hard to believe that an undefeated team would be ranked below Boise State, but the computers don’t take reputation into account. The voters have also decided that BSU needs to be given a shot, and this is the year for it.

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