# College football fans: how's your team look?

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**Created:** [August 21, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968 "2010-08-21T14:47:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/281 "2010-11-14T23:23:01Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> BCS is out and Oregon and Auburn are a natural number 1 game.

Cite?

BCS rankings are not released until Sunday evening, Eastern time.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/282 "2010-11-14T23:57:52Z")

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Well the next two weeks should be interesting for Michigan. They are really playing with house money at this point. 7 wins guarantees a winning season, and I’m pretty sure enough to save Rich for another year. Everybody knows they are really over-matched, and the D’s just can’t stand up to Wisc, and OSU this year. It is honestly the only time In my life of following the wolverines that I can remember them going into a game without lots of pressure. It could turn into one hell of a circus if all those young kids go in there loose with a big “what the fuck, lets have fun” attitude.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/283 "2010-11-15T01:14:34Z")

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Like they’re throwing lot’s of monkeys off their backs.

9-1 in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/284 "2010-11-15T03:53:06Z")

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After a pretty sad-looking loss to Arkansas last week, my Gamecocks looked like they were doing their usual late-season swoon. But then they walloped Florida last night, 36-14, in the Swamp. That gets them a ticket to the SEC championship game. They’re one of several teams that Auburn squeaked by, so the rematch has potential to be interesting.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/285 "2010-11-15T04:07:32Z")

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My heart dropped when UF ran the opening kickoff back for a TD, but I felt better pretty quick!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/286 "2010-11-15T12:31:43Z")

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My Spartans must have had a lousy week of practice- they dropped 1 place in the poll and the BCS despite having a bye week.

As much as I despise Nick Satan, I’m pulling for Alabama to beat Auburn and their unsavory QB, then have South Carolina dump Auburn in the SEC title game, setting up an SEC-free BCS title game.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/287 "2010-11-15T15:19:43Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I am so proud of my sturdy Golden Bears; at least, the defensive portion. They absolutely stuffed the ustoppable Oregon offense, holding them to a single TD (another TD on a punt return). If the Bears had any offense they’d have won that game.

I switched over when the Texas-OSU game got boring (as in, late first quarter). Cal-Oregon was a MUCH better game. I was kinda pulling for Cal at the end, they were doing so well.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/288 "2010-11-15T16:00:12Z")

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Bama tanked (at least, by the standards of this season’s expectations). Not a big deal, though. Last season was so incredibly magical; it had to end sometime, and it’s really, really difficult to repeat as champs. I was proud of the Tide Saturday. Nothing in particular to play for (besides, perhaps, spoiling Auburn’s run in a couple of weeks), but they came out and played with pride, and stomped the bejeezus out of Mississippi State.

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/289 "2010-11-15T17:32:59Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> My Spartans must have had a lousy week of practice- they dropped 1 place in the poll and the BCS despite having a bye week.
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> As much as I despise Nick Satan, I’m pulling for Alabama to beat Auburn and their unsavory QB, then have South Carolina dump Auburn in the SEC title game, setting up an SEC-free BCS title game.

Thats a red hot negative.. that dude is a BEAST!!! 6’5 250 and every week Cam is getting better and better.. and nothing but hate to that shitty little sewer school called Miss State.. they’d have to pay my son to play for the piece of dung school too.

Cam will kick Bama’s ass.. he runs for 175.. and racks up another 5 td’s

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/290 "2010-11-15T18:39:27Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> My Spartans must have had a lousy week of practice- they dropped 1 place in the poll and the BCS despite having a bye week.

IIRC, the Strength of Schedule component in the computer calculations is cumulative, rather than averaged.

In other words, if you have an off week, your SOS is standing still while other teams are going forward.

It is a reason why a Conference Championship game is important. The extra game helps your SOS.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/291 "2010-11-15T19:09:49Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I am so proud of my sturdy Golden Bears; at least, the defensive portion. They absolutely stuffed the ustoppable Oregon offense, holding them to a single TD (another TD on a punt return). If the Bears had any offense they’d have won that game.

Why oh why is Oregon still number 1 after this? Those thugs on BART need to be taken down a peg.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/292 "2010-11-15T19:15:47Z")

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It’s going to be awkward in Boulder next Saturday. Last home game, senior day - all the seniors are honored with their parents before the game. One of the seniors is a quarterback named Cody Hawkins.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/293 "2010-11-17T14:57:57Z")

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[Pac-10 teams faking injuries against Oregon](http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/17/pac-10-report-are-opponents-faking-injuries-to-slow-down-oregon/).

[Video of California player allegedly faking an ankle injury](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/520034-video-is-this-proof-that-cal-football-players-were-faking-injuries).

Cal’s nose tackle gets up after the play, takes a couple of steps, looks at the sideline, and then goes down, apparently in excruciating pain.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/294 "2010-11-17T16:08:04Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> [Pac-10 teams faking injuries against Oregon](http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/17/pac-10-report-are-opponents-faking-injuries-to-slow-down-oregon/).
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> [Video of California player allegedly faking an ankle injury](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/520034-video-is-this-proof-that-cal-football-players-were-faking-injuries).
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> Cal’s nose tackle gets up after the play, takes a couple of steps, looks at the sideline, and then goes down, apparently in excruciating pain.

Yeah, Oregon fans haven’t stopped whining since Saturday. Call the waaahmbulance. If it’s illegal, throw a flag. If it’s legal, shut up & deal with it.

I believe SEC fans refer to the behavior exhibited by Cal as “tryin’”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/295 "2010-11-17T17:16:04Z")

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And Oregon’s high-powered, up-tempo offense committed a half-dozen unflagged false starts and illegal procedures. There was one play, immediately following a first down, where they snapped the ball before the ref gave the “start the clock” signal, and before the chain gang had even started moving the chains.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/296 "2010-11-17T17:22:09Z")

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What would happen if some of those D linemen who found themselves in the backfield just took their sweet-assed time getting up and getting back to the formation? Would they be flagged for being offsides if Oregon lined up quickly?

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/297 "2010-11-17T17:37:19Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> What would happen if some of those D linemen who found themselves in the backfield just took their sweet-assed time getting up and getting back to the formation? Would they be flagged for being offsides if Oregon lined up quickly?

Yes, once the ball is placed it can be hiked (on a first down they have to wait for the refs signal, but the ref doesn’t wait for the defensive players).

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/298 "2010-11-17T17:41:17Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Yeah, Oregon fans haven’t stopped whining since Saturday. Call the waaahmbulance. If it’s illegal, throw a flag. If it’s legal, shut up & deal with it.
> 
> I believe SEC fans refer to the behavior exhibited by Cal as “tryin’”. 🙂

I don’t blame Cal or Oregon for calling attention to it. It is smart, by Cal, but it isn’t exactly the way I want to see football played, so I think there should be some clarity or additional rules. I wouldn’t mind a rule that said an injured player must sit out for two or three plays, instead of just one.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/299 "2010-11-17T17:49:55Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> And Oregon’s high-powered, up-tempo offense committed a half-dozen unflagged false starts and illegal procedures. There was one play, immediately following a first down, where they snapped the ball before the ref gave the “start the clock” signal, and before the chain gang had even started moving the chains.

I think I read this earlier in the thread.

> [@](#):
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> If it’s illegal, throw a flag.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/300 "2010-11-17T19:06:54Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I think I read this earlier in the thread.

A false start is illegal; faking an injury isn’t. I think Oregon moves too quickly for the officiating crew.

It will be very interesting to see how Oregon reacts to their near-death experience, how their upcoming opponents (especially in the BCS bowl) leverage what happened, and whether any officiating changes or points of emphasis come about.

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