# College football fans: how's your team look?

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**Created:** [August 21, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968 "2010-08-21T14:47:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/341 "2010-11-27T16:47:38Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Take a well-deserved bow! Can’t believe Nevada has chinzty short goalposts. I’m not 100% sure that attempt at the end of regulation was wide but the officials had a better view than the camera. BSU is like the schoolyard bully that beats up on the weak kids and takes their lunch money. Then they find a kid that fights back and all of a sudden they aren’t so tough anymore. Glad to see them lose. Props to the officials for not being in the tank for BSU, there are conferences that seem to give all the breaks to teams in the hunt for the title game.

That’s not really fair. BSU has chalenged a number of good opponents over the last 5 years, and beaten most of them. The are a legitimately very good team, who deserved a three or 4 spot. And a chance in the national game in Auburn or Oregon had stumbled, and they had been undefeated.  
They simply lost a game to another good team like most other very good teams do once or twice. They no longer deserve the ranking or the shot, because that’s the way the game is played, but to pretend this one loss proves they were chumps and posers all along all along is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/342 "2010-11-27T17:29:30Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Take a well-deserved bow! Can’t believe Nevada has chinzty short goalposts. I’m not 100% sure that attempt at the end of regulation was wide but the officials had a better view than the camera. BSU is like the schoolyard bully that beats up on the weak kids and takes their lunch money. Then they find a kid that fights back and all of a sudden they aren’t so tough anymore. Glad to see them lose. Props to the officials for not being in the tank for BSU, there are conferences that seem to give all the breaks to teams in the hunt for the title game.

Virginia Tech  
Oregon State  
TCU  
Oregon

This year and last year. They play a better schedule than teams in the ACC.

I’ve never heard a single person argue that Boise should have been in the title game last year. When people say they deserve a shot, they mean that the system is broken because it precludes most teams from having a chance regardless of how well they play.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/343 "2010-11-27T17:58:25Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> . They play a better schedule than teams in the ACC.

FTR: The ACC historically plays more inter-conference games against BCS Conference Schools (& Notre Dame) than the Big 10, Big 12, and the SEC on a per team basis.

Thus far, the ACC has played 12 games against BCS teams, and today they play 4 more (GT/UGA, Clemson/USC, FSU/UF, BC/Syracuse) for a total of 16 games.

Big 10: 12 games  
Big 12: 12 Games  
SEC: 15 games (including the three today)

Including USC’s game today against Notre Dame, the PAC 10 plays 14 BCS caliber Non conference games:

The Big East plays more BCS teams on a per team basis, but they only play 7 conference games, they have a little more wiggle room to schedule the “tougher” opponents.

Disclaimer: The ACC has played rotten against BCS Conference Teams as has the Big East. But their schedule is not the problem.

[Source](http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html):

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/344 "2010-11-27T18:33:52Z")

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Actually, I forgot two OOC games for the ACC.

Miami is playing South Florida and Wake Forest is playing Vanderbilt.

So ACC is playing 18 OOC games against BCS Conference caliber teams. an average of 1.5 OOC BCS games per team. More than the Big 12, Big 10, SEC and the Pac 10.

And yes, the Pac-10 deserves credit for playing a round Robin Schedule, or a total of 10.4 BCS caliber games per team.

The ACC is second, at 9.5 BCS Caliber teams.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/345 "2010-11-27T18:56:28Z")

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Well, Michigan is getting beaten up by OSU again. Looked good in the first quarter but couldn’t put up the points.

Then again, BSU and Alabama were also both up 24-7 at halftime yesterday! :eek:

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/346 "2010-11-27T19:19:30Z")

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Boise claimed to be number one and deserving the BCS bowl , then get beaten by Nevada. That’s the last of their weeping about a lack of respect for this year.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/347 "2010-11-27T19:23:15Z")

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Yesterday was a horrible day in college football for me. I was rooting for BSU and against Auburn and Oregon. I really hope that my Beavs beat the Oregon Sucks in the Civil War. If they do that, then TCU deserves a spot over them in the NC game because they beat those same Beavs earlier in the year. I can’t stomach the thought of Nike U vs. SEC champ in the BCS NC game because both couldn’t lose. I was rooting for BSU over TCU though, because I thought that BSU had a better shot at beating Oregon or Auburn. I think OSU has a puncher’s chance to shock the world against both Stanford and Oregon. They seem to play to the level of the competition this year; they beat USC and Arizona, but lost to UCLA, UW, and WSU.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/348 "2010-11-27T19:40:40Z")

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Yeah, but their entire conference schedule is crap.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/349 "2010-11-27T20:32:10Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Yeah, but their entire conference schedule is crap.

I acknowledge that ACC is in the middle of a down cycle, but as recently as two years ago, [Sagarin](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm) rated the ACC as the third best conference. And [last year](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm), Sagarin rated them ahead of the Big 12 and Big 10.

This year, the ACC sucks, but both Colley and Sagarin rate the conference ahead of the WAC and MVC.

The WAC sucks every year.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/350 "2010-11-27T20:55:14Z")

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Anybody know what time it is?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/351 "2010-11-27T22:08:32Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> Anybody know what time it is?

Good question.

It’s 4:07 PM here in Stillwater, OK…  
AND OU STILL SUCKS!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/352 "2010-11-27T22:33:34Z")

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I thought it was some lyrics from a Chicago song.  
PS:

But I didn’t really care.

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**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/353 "2010-11-28T03:18:57Z")

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Its time for this:

“On Wisconsin, On Wisconsin, Grand Old Badger state  
We thy loyal sons and daughters hail thee good and great - Uh Rah RaH!  
On Wisconsin, On Wisconsin Champion of the right  
Onward, our motto, God will give thee might!”

And, no, right does not imply ‘right wing’!

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/354 "2010-11-28T05:22:19Z")

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Ow ☹

Left a TE wide open for a huge PA touchdown to go down by too much. Couldn’t get the onside back. Too many turnovers.

“Ever you’ll find us, loyal and true; to our Alma Mater, O-S-U.”

(And if we’re ranked ahead of the Aggies and the Sooners in the standings, we can still go to Jerryworld)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/355 "2010-11-28T05:23:58Z")

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Jeez, I hate notre dame. I’m just thankful I didn’t take the invite and ticket, drive 5 hours in a snowstorm to sit thru that game in the rain, only to sleep on a floor and drive 5-7 back home in a snowstorm.

How 'bout that Nevada Wolfpack? And who is on Kyle’s suicide watch this hour?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/356 "2010-11-28T05:29:04Z")

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Didn’t you hear?

Brotzman had the rope in the rafters around his neck, but couldn’t kick the chair out from under himself.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/357 "2010-11-28T05:41:28Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> That’s not really fair. BSU has chalenged a number of good opponents over the last 5 years, and **beaten most of them**. The are a legitimately very good team, who deserved a three or 4 spot. And a chance in the national game in Auburn or Oregon had stumbled, and they had been undefeated.  
> They simply lost a game to another good team like most other very good teams do once or twice. They no longer deserve the ranking or the shot, because that’s the way the game is played, but to pretend this one loss proves they were chumps and posers all along all along is wrong.

Bolding mine. Hell, they beat damn near \*all \*of them! Including the mighty Oklahoma in a bowl game!

I agree. They showed true championship material when they nutted up and got to the Nevada red-zone with 9 seconds left, had the head to call a time-out for the kick. Two missed kicks don’t prove they are a shit team of posers. They finally caught a couple bad breaks, very uncharesteristic of the last few seasons. Resulted in a _loss in overtime_. They shouldn’t fall behind a whole pack of other one-lossers. I’d put em behind Wisconsin, Ohio State and Mich. St, but still ahead of LSU.

I was really hoping they would get a shot at the title, but since Alabama handed the win to Auburn, I figured I might as well root for the home team (Nevada) and had a great night of fool-ball!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/358 "2010-11-28T05:42:21Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> Ow ☹
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> Left a TE wide open for a huge PA touchdown to go down by too much. Couldn’t get the onside back. Too many turnovers.
> 
> “Ever you’ll find us, loyal and true; to our Alma Mater, O-S-U.”
> 
> (And if we’re ranked ahead of the Aggies and the Sooners in the standings, we can still go to Jerryworld)

But OK State had the interception of the year, if it is any consolation.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/359 "2010-11-28T05:44:33Z")

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I was in the can at the time, but caught the replay.

Absurd.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/360 "2010-11-28T14:23:50Z")

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Week 13 – Top Teams

```auto

Oregon (1) 8-0 11-0 Pacific-10 
Auburn (2) 8-0 12-0 Southeastern West 
Boise State (3) 6-1 10-1 Western Athletic  
TCU (4) 8-0 12-0 Mountain West
Wisconsin (5) 7-1 11-1 Big Ten 
LSU (6) 6-2 10-2 Southeastern West  
Stanford (7) 8-1 11-1 Pacific-10   
Ohio State (8) 7-1 11-1 Big Ten 
Alabama (9) 5-3 9-3 Southeastern West 
Oklahoma State (10) 6-2 10-2 Big 12 South  
Michigan State (11) 7-1 11-1 Big Ten 
Arkansas (12) 6-2 10-2 Southeastern West   
Virginia Tech (13) 8-0 10-2 Atlantic Coast Coastal 
Oklahoma (14) 6-2 10-2 Big 12 South  
Missouri (15) 6-2 10-2 Big 12 North  
Nebraska (16) 6-2 10-2 Big 12 North 
Texas A&M (17) 6-2 9-3 Big 12 South  
South Carolina (18) 5-3 9-3 Southeastern East 
Nevada (19) 6-1 11-1 Western Athletic  
Arizona (20) 4-4 7-4 Pacific-10   
North Carolina State (21) 5-3 8-4 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Florida State (22) 6-2 9-3 Atlantic Coast Atlantic 
Utah (23) 7-1 10-2 Mountain West 
Iowa (24) 4-4 7-5 Big Ten 
Mississippi State (25) 4-4 8-4 Southeastern West  

Northern Illinois 8-0 10-2 Mid-American West 

UCF 7-1 9-3 Conference USA East 
Hawaii 7-1 9-3 Western Athletic 

Tulsa 6-2 9-3 Conference USA West  

West Virginia 4-2 8-3 Big East  
Navy 0-0 8-3 Independents (FBS) 

Miami (OH) 7-1 8-4 Mid-American East 
Toledo 7-1 8-4 Mid-American West 

Ohio 6-2 8-4 Mid-American East

Maryland 5-3 8-4 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Southern Miss 5-3 8-4 Conference USA East  
Temple 5-3 8-4 Mid-American East
San Diego State 5-3 8-4 Mountain West 
Air Force 5-3 8-4 Mountain West 

Fresno State 5-3 7-4 Western Athletic  

Connecticut 4-2 7-4 Big East 

South Florida 3-3 7-4 Big East  

Southern Methodist 6-2 7-5 Conference USA West 

Miami (FL) 5-3 7-5 Atlantic Coast Coastal 

Syracuse 4-3 7-5 Big East 

Boston College 4-4 7-5 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
North Carolina 4-4 7-5 Atlantic Coast Coastal 
Penn State 4-4 7-5 Big Ten 
Baylor 4-4 7-5 Big 12 South  
USC 4-4 7-5 Pacific-10   
Florida 4-4 7-5 Southeastern East  

Michigan 3-5 7-5 Big Ten 
Northwestern 3-5 7-5 Big Ten 
Kansas State 3-5 7-5 Big 12 North  
Texas Tech 3-5 7-5 Big 12 South  

Notre Dame 0-0 7-5 Independents (FBS)  

```

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