# College football fans: how's your team look?

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**Created:** [August 21, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968 "2010-08-21T14:47:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/101 "2010-09-20T22:42:49Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Michigan State is #1 in the nation in fake field goals in OT. Woot!

And doing it for the win over Notre Dame… _Priceless!_ 🆒

They are my new 2nd favorite team for now.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/102 "2010-09-21T15:50:41Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Boomer!!! OK, now the next poster is supposed to say: “Sooner!”
> 
> Sooners are looking good. We’re a preseason top 5; but with GA and Florida up there too, I’m not sure how much sense that makes.
> 
> QB Landry Jones has a year under his belt; and didn’t do too bad as a redshirt freshman. If DeMarco Murray can stay healthy he should have a good year at running back. I can’t wait. I love college sports.

Sooner!!!

Unfortunately, after 3 games, they also look bi-polar. Squeek out a win against Utah State. :eek: Crush Florida State. 🆒 Squeek out a win against Air Force. 😕 I’m hoping for the trend to continue and that we’ll have a crushing against the Bearcats.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/103 "2010-09-21T21:33:19Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> > [@BobLibDem](#):
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> > Michigan State is #1 in the nation in fake field goals in OT. Woot!
> 
> Dantonio had a heart attack last night. They put a stint in and he will be out a few weeks. He will return after the U of M game.

Yeah, it sort of put things in perspective. I thought the fake FG was a great call, getting his butt to the hospital was an even better call.

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**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/104 "2010-09-26T03:56:39Z")

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Badgers are 4 and 0 and finally kicked an inferior opponent the way an inferior opponent should be kicked (Badgers 70 Austin Peay 3).

The real season begins in one week!

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/105 "2010-09-26T04:03:04Z")

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Still Numero Uno. Roll Tide.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/106 "2010-09-26T14:18:46Z")

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The Sooners remain unbeaten and are probably the worst 4-0 team in the country.

At least Texas lost.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/107 "2010-09-26T14:56:34Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> The Sooners remain unbeaten and are probably the worst 4-0 team in the country.
> 
> At least Texas lost.

Your comment about “probably the worst 4-0 team in the country” prompts me to post the results of reorganizing the data into “Top 25” (as ranked before the weekend) and teams scoring at least 3 wins so far.

Try to predict:

1. How many better scoring teams remain out of the Top 25 this week
2. How many stay in the Top 25 when there are x-number of better-scoring teams available to move up
3. Why attention is still paid to these obviously stupid polling methods

```auto

Last updated Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 5:36 am EDT
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings
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Alabama (1) 1-0 4-0 Southeastern West 
Ohio State (2) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
Boise State (3) 0-0 3-0 Western Athletic 
TCU (4) 0-0 4-0 Mountain West 
Oregon (5) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10 
Nebraska (6) 0-0 4-0 Big 12 North
Texas (7) 1-0 3-1 Big 12 South
Oklahoma (8) 0-0 4-0 Big 12 South 
Florida (9) 2-0 4-0 Southeastern East 
Arkansas (10) 1-1 3-1 Southeastern West  
Wisconsin (11) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
South Carolina (12) 1-1 3-1 Southeastern East 
Utah (13) 2-0 4-0 Mountain West
Arizona (14) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10 
LSU (15) 2-0 4-0 Southeastern West 
Stanford (16) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10 
Auburn (17) 2-0 4-0 Southeastern West 
Iowa (18) 0-0 3-1 Big Ten 
Miami (FL) (19) 0-0 2-1 Atlantic Coast Coastal 
USC (20) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10
Michigan (21) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
West Virginia (22) 0-0 3-1 Big East 
Penn State (23) 0-0 3-1 Big Ten 
Oregon State (24) 0-0 1-2 Pacific-10 
Michigan State (25) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 

North Carolina State 1-0 4-0 Atlantic Coast Atlantic 
Kansas State 1-0 4-0 Big 12 North

Northwestern 0-0 4-0 Big Ten
Nevada 0-0 4-0 Western Athletic 
Missouri 0-0 4-0 Big 12 North 

Indiana 0-0 3-0 Big Ten
Oklahoma State 0-0 3-0 Big 12 South 
Texas A&M 0-0 3-0 Big 12 South 

Houston 2-0 3-1 Conference USA West  
Air Force 2-0 3-1 Mountain West 
Toledo 2-0 3-1 Mid-American West 

Florida State 1-0 3-1 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Temple 1-0 3-1 Mid-American East
UTEP 1-1 3-1 Conference USA West

Syracuse 0-0 3-1 Big East  
Maryland 0-0 3-1 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
Baylor 0-0 3-1 Big 12 South 
Southern Miss 0-0 3-1 Conference USA East  
Army 0-0 3-1 Independents 
San Diego State 0-0 3-1 Mountain West 

Kentucky 0-1 3-1 Southeastern East 

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/108 "2010-09-26T15:16:09Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Still Numero Uno. Roll Tide.

That was not rolling. That was oozing.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/109 "2010-09-26T15:22:41Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> > [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> > The Sooners remain unbeaten and are probably the worst 4-0 team in the country.
> > 
> > At least Texas lost.
> 
> Your comment about “probably the worst 4-0 team in the country” prompts me to post the results of reorganizing the data into “Top 25” (as ranked before the weekend) and teams scoring at least 3 wins so far.
> 
> Try to predict:
> 
> 1. How many better scoring teams remain out of the Top 25 this week
> 2. How many stay in the Top 25 when there are x-number of better-scoring teams available to move up
> 3. Why attention is still paid to these obviously stupid polling methods
> 
> ```auto
> 
> Last updated Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 5:36 am EDT
> http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings
> ===================================================
> 
> Alabama (1) 1-0 4-0 Southeastern West 
> Ohio State (2) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
> Boise State (3) 0-0 3-0 Western Athletic 
> TCU (4) 0-0 4-0 Mountain West 
> Oregon (5) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10 
> Nebraska (6) 0-0 4-0 Big 12 North
> Texas (7) 1-0 3-1 Big 12 South
> Oklahoma (8) 0-0 4-0 Big 12 South 
> Florida (9) 2-0 4-0 Southeastern East 
> Arkansas (10) 1-1 3-1 Southeastern West  
> Wisconsin (11) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
> South Carolina (12) 1-1 3-1 Southeastern East 
> Utah (13) 2-0 4-0 Mountain West
> Arizona (14) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10 
> LSU (15) 2-0 4-0 Southeastern West 
> Stanford (16) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10 
> Auburn (17) 2-0 4-0 Southeastern West 
> Iowa (18) 0-0 3-1 Big Ten 
> Miami (FL) (19) 0-0 2-1 Atlantic Coast Coastal 
> USC (20) 1-0 4-0 Pacific-10
> Michigan (21) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
> West Virginia (22) 0-0 3-1 Big East 
> Penn State (23) 0-0 3-1 Big Ten 
> Oregon State (24) 0-0 1-2 Pacific-10 
> Michigan State (25) 0-0 4-0 Big Ten 
> 
> North Carolina State 1-0 4-0 Atlantic Coast Atlantic 
> Kansas State 1-0 4-0 Big 12 North
> 
> Northwestern 0-0 4-0 Big Ten
> Nevada 0-0 4-0 Western Athletic 
> Missouri 0-0 4-0 Big 12 North 
> 
> Indiana 0-0 3-0 Big Ten
> Oklahoma State 0-0 3-0 Big 12 South 
> Texas A&M 0-0 3-0 Big 12 South 
> 
> Houston 2-0 3-1 Conference USA West  
> Air Force 2-0 3-1 Mountain West 
> Toledo 2-0 3-1 Mid-American West 
> 
> Florida State 1-0 3-1 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
> Temple 1-0 3-1 Mid-American East
> UTEP 1-1 3-1 Conference USA West
> 
> Syracuse 0-0 3-1 Big East  
> Maryland 0-0 3-1 Atlantic Coast Atlantic  
> Baylor 0-0 3-1 Big 12 South 
> Southern Miss 0-0 3-1 Conference USA East  
> Army 0-0 3-1 Independents 
> San Diego State 0-0 3-1 Mountain West 
> 
> Kentucky 0-1 3-1 Southeastern East 
> 
> ```

You can not go by the out of conference schedules to rate your school. Many teams are playing several levels down. It is too early to get fired up. The BCS has encouraged teams to beat up on lesser programs to pad stats and avoid a crucial loss.  
Michigan has scored easily this year. But U of M fans can see the defense is not very good. The pass defense is not very good. If weak teams demonstrate that , the big teams will exploit it. They can score well enough to snatch victory from more complete teams though.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/110 "2010-09-26T16:21:14Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> > [@Ogre](#):
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> > Still Numero Uno. Roll Tide.
> 
> That was not rolling. That was oozing.

Au contraire. That was overcoming the speed bumps and then rolling to 17 unanswered points and a hard-earned victory.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/111 "2010-09-26T23:09:17Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Au contraire. That was overcoming the speed bumps and then rolling to 17 unanswered points and a hard-earned victory.

Not so fast, my friend! That was Mallet throwing 2 picks, and _handing_ you the win. “Hard-earned” my butt!

I wouldn’t be suprised to see that boy driving a new car to class tomorrow. From some Alabama dealer. 😛

Pac-10 looked pretty good yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/112 "2010-09-26T23:42:06Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > [@Ogre](#):
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> > Au contraire. That was overcoming the speed bumps and then rolling to 17 unanswered points and a hard-earned victory.
> 
> Not so fast, my friend! That was Mallet throwing 2 picks, and _handing_ you the win. “Hard-earned” my butt!
> 
> I wouldn’t be suprised to see that boy driving a new car to class tomorrow. From some Alabama dealer. 😛
> 
> Pac-10 looked pretty good yesterday.

There had to be someone on the other end of the errant throws to make the pick, ol’ buddy. Did you see Dre Kirkpatrick’s circus catch-and-double-tap to ice the game? Very athletic play.

Also, hard-earned =

1. holding Arkansas to 120 total yards in the second half after hemorrhaging yardage the first.

2. Controlling the ball on several tough, slogging drives, like that 8:15 long drive that put Bama back in it for real.

3. A team deciding they didn’t want to lose after all, and going out without panic and making it happen.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/113 "2010-09-27T00:24:31Z")

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States we should give back to Mexico: Arizona, Nevada, Texas. Oh, throw in Washington, too.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/114 "2010-09-27T00:40:53Z")

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UCF dominated 4-0 Kansas State for 58 minutes before standing and watching as they marched down the field for a go-ahead touchdown on their final possession.

Would have been our biggest win ever (K State are just outside the Top 25).

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/115 "2010-09-27T01:03:34Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> UCF dominated 4-0 Kansas State for 58 minutes before standing and watching as they marched down the field for a go-ahead touchdown on their final possession.
> 
> Would have been our biggest win ever (K State are just outside the Top 25).

Exact scenario played out in Cal @ Arizona. Total defensive slugfest for 58 minutes, with Cal ahead 3 FG’s to 1. But Cal missed a 40 yarder with 2 minutes left, and us long-suffering Bears knew exactly what was going to happen…let AZ march down the field for the game-winning TD.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/116 "2010-10-01T04:15:42Z")

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Like we’re 4 and 0!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/117 "2010-10-01T04:38:52Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Rutgers is 2-0 but have looked pretty weak so far. Their O-line is porous and their sophomore QB has not played terribly well so far. They’ve beaten 2 cupcakes (Norfolk and FIU) and will likely get trounced at home vs. UNC after this week’s bye.

I’m not an alum, but root my home state’s team. I’d like to see them get their TE, Jefferson involved a bit more in the offense; they probably run the wildcat too often, and when they do, they never throw. Their defense will be stout, though.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/118 "2010-10-01T18:12:55Z")

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Good weekend coming up: _no way_ Cal will lose this Saturday! Go Ducks!

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**Author:** ![Dcypher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@Dcypher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dcypher)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/119 "2010-10-01T18:21:59Z")

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Bama fan in Tampa here. Not looking forward to the FL game. If they win, I have to be nice. If Bama loses, I get 16 tons of shit at work.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-fans-hows-your-team-look/550968/120 "2010-10-01T19:08:03Z")

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Heh. I’m actually predicting a Bama loss this week, but it could just as easily be next week.

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