# College football match-ups **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 24, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938 "2010-09-24T22:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/21 "2010-09-28T00:08:35Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > > [@Zeldar](#): > > > > Go with Vanderbilt then. Unless the “major conference” doesn’t apply. > > There you go. The MAC sucks, but they’re no worse than the Mountain West (Colorado State). > > > [@](#): > > > > My choice of Tennessee was to demonstrate that UT must recruit from all over the country (not just the state) and must appeal to all areas of the country for its players. > > Uh - then why the hell don’t they play teams from across the country? Vanderbilt plays teams across the country not because they’re recruiting, but because they’re terrible and get offered attractive packages to play them by other conference teams. The Mountain West has two teams in the top 15 in the country, and Air Force is just outside of the top 25 (for now.) The MAC doesn’t have a single team in the top 25. And before you say it, the WAC has the #3 team and the #25, and Nevada will be climbing the rankings all season. Both conferences are better than the Big East, too. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/22 "2010-09-28T00:50:29Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > The Mountain West has two teams in the top 15 in the country, and Air Force is just outside of the top 25 (for now.) The MAC doesn’t have a single team in the top 25. And before you say it, the WAC has the #3 team and the #25, and Nevada will be climbing the rankings all season. Both conferences are better than the Big East, too. And…? Seriously - this isn’t even close to any argument or point I was trying to make. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/23 "2010-09-28T01:32:25Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > > [@Zeldar](#): > > > > I offer Tennessee: [http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/all-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2009&team=Tennessee&sort=g](http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/all-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2009&team=Tennessee&sort=g) > > What about Tennessee? I’ll give you that they played Oregon. At home, of course, but they played a good team. Other than that, they’ve played southern hyphenated teams - Tennesee-Martin (who?) and Alabama-Birmingham. > > Of that list of teams they’ve played since 1869, of the teams they’ve played 10 or more times, I only see UCLA as a worthy opponent outside of the South, and most of those were likely bowl games that they didn’t schedule. I’d cut UT some slack, at least in the last 32 years. During that time they’ve played home and home against Notre Dame 8 times (winning 4 and losing 4). I only know that because I went to the game in South Bend IN in 2001 and that damn song “Rocky Top” is still ringing in my ears. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/24 "2010-09-28T01:51:09Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Are there any long-term BCS schools who’ve never played each other? Just for the heck of it I checked my favorite team’s record and found that BCS school Notre Dame has never played the following 11 BCS schools: Arkansas, Auburn, Iowa State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Mississippi State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/25 "2010-09-28T02:02:13Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > The Mountain West has two teams in the top 15 in the country, and Air Force is just outside of the top 25 (for now.) The MAC doesn’t have a single team in the top 25. And before you say it, the WAC has the #3 team and the #25, and Nevada will be climbing the rankings all season. Both conferences are better than the Big East, too. The quality of a conference is not measured by the top teams, but top-to-bottom. The WAC and MWC each have 2-3 quality teams, along with 2-3 teams that fit in with the MAC/Sun Belt. It is a well-known fact that SEC teams don’t leave the South much; but most of them still play at least one major-conference team every year. Most of the BCS teams don’t play more than one big-conference team a year. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/26 "2010-09-28T02:06:22Z")
FTR, In 2010, The 12 Big 10 teams (including Nebraska) play 13 Out of Conference games against BCS conferences teams + Notre Dame. In 2010, The 12 SEC teams play 15 OOC games against BCS Conference teams. Did anyone take a look at who the Big 10 played this past weekend? Indiana vs Akron Iowa vs Ball St Michigan vs Bowling Green Mich St vs Northern Colorado Minnesota vs Northern Illinois **(LOSS)** Northwestern vs Central Michigan Ohio St vs East Michigan Penn St vs Temple Purdue vs Toledo **(LOSS)** Wisconsin vs Austin Peay Illinois (idle) Nebraska vs South Dakota St. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/27 "2010-09-28T02:10:22Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > > [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > > > The Mountain West has two teams in the top 15 in the country, and Air Force is just outside of the top 25 (for now.) The MAC doesn’t have a single team in the top 25. And before you say it, the WAC has the #3 team and the #25, and Nevada will be climbing the rankings all season. Both conferences are better than the Big East, too. > > And…? Seriously - this isn’t even close to any argument or point I was trying to make. You said “There you go. The MAC sucks, but they’re no worse than the Mountain West (Colorado State).” That is false. The SEC rarely plays challenging games out of conference, and even more rarely on the road. That’s just how it is. Deal with it, or change it. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/28 "2010-09-28T02:12:42Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > When is the last time Florida played a non-conference game outside the state of Florida? Yes Florida plays a couple of cupcakes every year. But they got Florida State on their schedule every year. Yes, FSU has been down for last few years but they still have multiple national championships in the last 20 years. I cannot think of another team besides Florida (and Notre Dame) who has a annual non-conference opponent that has won multiple National Championships in the last 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/29 "2010-09-28T02:16:09Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > > [@Munch](#): > > > > And…? Seriously - this isn’t even close to any argument or point I was trying to make. > > You said “There you go. The MAC sucks, but they’re no worse than the Mountain West (Colorado State).” > > That is false. > > The SEC rarely plays challenging games out of conference, and even more rarely on the road. That’s just how it is. Deal with it, or change it. UGA, USC, UK and UF have annual in-state rivalries with out of conference BCS teams. Tennessee usually has a home and home with a PAC 10 team Arkansas has been playing Tex A/M for the last few year. Auburn went to Clemson this year LSU played North Carolina and West Virginia this year. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/30 "2010-09-28T02:19:02Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > You said “There you go. The MAC sucks, but they’re no worse than the Mountain West (Colorado State).” > > That is false. Great. And…? I wasn’t arguing FOR the SEC, I was casually dismissing the argument that Vanderbilt’s schedule was somehow proof of how much effort the SEC goes to to create challenging OOC schedules. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/31 "2010-09-28T02:20:32Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Did anyone take a look at who the Big 10 played this past weekend? > > Indiana vs Akron > Iowa vs Ball St > Michigan vs Bowling Green > Mich St vs Northern Colorado > Minnesota vs Northern Illinois **(LOSS)** > Northwestern vs Central Michigan > Ohio St vs East Michigan > Penn St vs Temple > Purdue vs Toledo **(LOSS)** > Wisconsin vs Austin Peay > Illinois (idle) > Nebraska vs South Dakota St. And Oh, BTW, all these games were home games for the Big 10. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/32 "2010-09-28T02:25:07Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > FTR, In 2010, The 12 Big 10 teams (including Nebraska) play 13 Out of Conference games against BCS conferences teams + Notre Dame. > > In 2010, The 12 SEC teams play 15 OOC games against BCS Conference teams. Yeah, they play the dregs of the two worst BCS conferences (ACC and Big East) and Colorado and Northwestern. Points for Oregon and Penn State. The Big Ten plays against Notre Dame (3X), Missouri (2X), UNLV, Az. State, Arizona, USC, and Alabama. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/33 "2010-09-28T02:29:03Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > \ > Did anyone take a look at who the Big 10 played this past weekend? > > \ > Nebraska vs South Dakota St. While you make a fair point, the Huskers are still in the Big 12 this season. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/34 "2010-09-28T02:50:13Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > The Big Ten plays against Notre Dame (3X), Missouri (2X), UNLV, Az. State, Arizona, USC, and Alabama. Notre Dame? should change their name to Notre Levant as in “Not Re levant” in college football anymore. Missouri, 2X? Huh? Illinois is the only current Big 10 team that they are playing this year. And they are about 6 or 7th best program in the over rated Big 12. UNLV??? You are bragging because Wisconsin played UNLV? Puleezzze, they haven’t had a winning record since 2000 when they went an incredible 8-5. In the last 6 years, they have won a grand total of 18 games against 52 losses. Arizona St? 9-15 in the last two years. Arizona? Ok, 8-5 records the last two years, 55-75 in the 12 years. I’ll give you USC and Bama. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/35 "2010-09-28T03:02:15Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Notre Dame? should change their name to Notre Levant as in “Not Re levant” in college football anymore. > > Missouri, 2X? Huh? Illinois is the only current Big 10 team that they are playing this year. And they are about 6 or 7th best program in the over rated Big 12. Maybe Notre Dame is irrelevant because they play all those Big Ten and PAC-10 schools every year. Unlike the SEC, who play the lower half of the ACC and Big East and a bunch of hyphenated and directional schools. You’re the one who originally brought Nebraska into the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/36 "2010-09-28T03:06:44Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Missouri, 2X? Huh? Illinois is the only current Big 10 team that they are playing this year. Missouri plays both Nebraska and Illinois this season. You’re the one who lumped Nebraska in with the Big 10 this year. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/37 "2010-09-28T03:12:28Z")
If you notice, in post 26, I added Nebraska to give an even point of reference between the # OOC games btwn the Big 10 and the SEC. I would assume that if **Lamar Mundane** is going to count Nebraska’s games, he would have included Texas and Oklahoma State. And FTR, How many Big 10 teams is Nebraska playing. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/38 "2010-09-28T03:13:57Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > > [@notfrommensa](#): > > > > Missouri, 2X? Huh? Illinois is the only current Big 10 team that they are playing this year. > > Missouri plays both Nebraska and Illinois this season. You’re the one who lumped Nebraska in with the Big 10 this year. See Post above. I was including OOC games for Big 10 teams. Why didn’t you include Texas and Oklahoma State. And tell me, since when did UNLV become a good college football team? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/39 "2010-09-28T03:19:47Z")
oops, the post above should have been replied to **Lamar Mundane**. Sorry, Missed edit window ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/40 "2010-09-28T03:33:06Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > > [@notfrommensa](#): > > > > Did anyone take a look at who the Big 10 played this past weekend? > > > > Indiana vs Akron > > Iowa vs Ball St > > Michigan vs Bowling Green > > Mich St vs Northern Colorado > > Minnesota vs Northern Illinois **(LOSS)** > > Northwestern vs Central Michigan > > Ohio St vs East Michigan > > Penn St vs Temple > > Purdue vs Toledo **(LOSS)** > > Wisconsin vs Austin Peay > > Illinois (idle) > > Nebraska vs South Dakota St. > > And Oh, BTW, all these games were home games for the Big 10. Not the big tens fault. They all dance to the BCS formula that reward victories over everything else. It should be shitcanned. I know why it was invented, but it has had an unintended consequence of teams scheduling cupcakes at every chance. Years ago teams were proud of the difficulty of their schedules. Now a tough schedule is a drawback. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938.md?page=3)