# College football match-ups **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 24, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938 "2010-09-24T22:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/61 "2010-09-29T01:11:51Z")
And in your post mentioning UNLV, is “Missouri (2X)” (right next to UNLV) Since we already established that Missouri represents only one non-conference game for current and future Big 10 members, i will point out that Champaign to St Louis is a grand total of about 180 miles. the trip from Gainesville Fl to Tallahassee, Fl is about 150 mile. I guess 30 miles makes a big difference. And you also mentioned Notre Dame. Yep that is big long distance trip for Purdue, Michigan St, and Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/62 "2010-09-29T01:21:40Z")
South Bend to: Ann Arbor: 180 miles East Lansing: 150 Miles West Lafayette, 130 Miles. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/63 "2010-09-29T05:34:30Z")
The games are in the other team’s home stadium. The continual nitpicking is very telling. Show me an SEC team that regularly plays good teams OOC away from home. Show me an SEC team that regularly plays OOC road games outside of the South. I’ve already given you Colorado’s travel record. Wisconsin in the same timeframe (2003-2010) has played at WVA, at UNLV (X2), at AZ, at NC, at Fresno State, and at Hawaii. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/64 "2010-09-29T13:52:53Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I certainly wouldn’t want to research every team, but I would be willing to summarize a conference. I will take the ACC. That’s the spirit. I’ll find the SEC team that has played the most non-conference teams since 1970. That’s easy enough to have the [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/index.php](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/index.php) spit out and checking those 12 teams for which has the most other teams (OOC) ought to be relatively easy to do. I’m going to include bowls since they aren’t readily identifiable as separate games. In any case, they should count as teams played, regular season or not. The main issue (as I see it) is which teams come closest to having played “everybody” and since conference affiliation is not shown, I’m just going to count all the non-conference teams. That could be more than 120 due to teams from other divisions having been played. Who wants the other conferences? Anybody for Big Ten, Pac-10, Big 12, Big East? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/65 "2010-09-29T14:34:39Z")
To make things easy for others to verify, I propose this format: ======================== > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/alabama/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Alabama Records by Team Opponent – 62 Total Arkansas St. Army (NY) Baylor (TX) Boston College (MA) Bowling Green (OH) Brigham Young (UT) California Central Florida Cincinnati (OH) Clemson (SC) Colorado Duke (NC) East Carolina (NC) Florida International Florida St. Georgia Tech Hawaii Houston (TX) Illinois Iowa St. Louisiana Tech Louisiana-Lafayette Louisiana-Monroe Louisville (KY) Maryland Memphis (TN) Miami (FL) Michigan Middle Tennessee St. Minnesota Missouri Nebraska North Carolina North Carolina St. North Texas Northern Illinois Notre Dame (IN) Ohio St. Oklahoma Oklahoma St. Penn St. Rutgers (NJ) South Florida Southern California Southern Methodist (TX) Southern Mississippi Temple ¶ Tennessee-Chattanooga Texas Texas A&M Texas Christian Texas Tech Texas-El Paso Tulane (LA) UCLA Utah Utah St. Virginia Tech Washington Western Carolina (NC) Western Kentucky Wichita St. (KS) ============================== ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/66 "2010-09-29T14:48:38Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > \ Show me an SEC team that regularly plays good teams OOC away from home. Show me an SEC team that regularly plays OOC road games outside of the South. > > \ > > Wisconsin in the same timeframe (2003-2010) has played at WVA, at UNLV (X2), at AZ, at NC, at Fresno State, and at Hawaii. And if you add the **top five** finishes of those six teams in the AP poll in the last 20 years, they will add up to less than the **NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS** of a OOC team (last 20 years) that Florida plays EVERY YEAR. I am much more interested in WHAT teams are played rather than WHERE games are played. The state of Florida has FOUR (4) BCS Conference teams, in THREE (3) different BCS conferences. They also have 3 other teams in Div I. Did it ever occur to you that Wisconsin has to leave Wisconsin because there is no other Div I teams in the state, let alone any BCS teams. the nearest BCS team (non Big 10) is Notre Dame and Iowa State. And did it ever occur to you that the fact that Florida doesn’t travel around the country might actually hurt Florida recruiting? I remember that when Missouri was being considered for the expanding Big 10 conference that their recruiting base in Texas would be severely jeopardized because they would not be playing in the state of Texas once or twice a year. Perhaps Wisconsin is playing on the West Coast in an effort to establish a recruiting base. In short, Florida doesn’t need to leave the state of Florida to play credible OOC teams on the road. Wisconsin has to leave the state of Wisconsin to play credible OOC teams on the road. In short, SEC teams doesn’t need to leave the SOUTH to play credible OOC teams on the road. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/67 "2010-09-29T16:47:16Z")
Here’s The summary for the SEC’s OOC activity from 1970-2009. I have the details by school if anybody wants to see a specific school’s summary. But in the interest of space: =========================================================== > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/alabama/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Alabama Records by Team # Opponent – 62 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/arkansas/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Arkansas Records by Team # Opponent – 56 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Auburn Records by Team # Opponent – 74 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/florida/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Florida Records by Team # Opponent – 78 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/georgia/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Georgia Records by Team # Opponent – 66 Total [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div\_ia/sec/kentucky/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/kentucky/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) Kentucky Records by Team # Opponent – 45 Total [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div\_ia/sec/louisiana\_state/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/louisiana_state/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) Louisiana State Records by Team # Opponent – 64 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/mississippi/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Mississippi Records by Team # Opponent – 45 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/mississippi_state/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Mississippi State Records by Team # Opponent – 53 Total [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div\_ia/sec/south\_carolina/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/south_carolina/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) South Carolina Records by Team # Opponent – 60 Total > **[Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/tennessee/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009)** > > Bluehost - Top rated web hosting provider - Free 1 click installs For blogs, shopping carts, and more. Get a free domain name, real NON-outsourced 24/7 support, and superior speed. web hosting provider php hosting cheap web hosting, Web hosting,... Tennessee Records by Team # Opponent – 72 Total [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div\_ia/sec/vanderbilt/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/vanderbilt/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) Vanderbilt Records by Team # Opponent – 50 Total ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/68 "2010-09-29T17:05:46Z")
Here’s a high-to-low summary of that data: ```auto Florida Records by Team -- Opponent -- 78 Total Auburn Records by Team -- Opponent -- 74 Total Tennessee Records by Team -- Opponent -- 72 Total Georgia Records by Team -- Opponent -- 66 Total Louisiana State Records by Team -- Opponent -- 64 Total Alabama Records by Team -- Opponent -- 62 Total South Carolina Records by Team -- Opponent -- 60 Total Arkansas Records by Team -- Opponent -- 56 Total Mississippi State Records by Team -- Opponent -- 53 Total Vanderbilt Records by Team -- Opponent -- 50 Total Kentucky Records by Team -- Opponent -- 45 Total Mississippi Records by Team -- Opponent -- 45 Total ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/69 "2010-09-29T21:46:57Z")
By comparison, here are three of the Big Ten schools: # [Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/michigan/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) Michigan Records by Team – Opponent – 58 Total # [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div\_ia/bigten/ohio\_state/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/ohio_state/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) Ohio State Records by Team – Opponent – 62 Total # [http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div\_ia/bigten/wisconsin/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009](http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/wisconsin/opponents.php?start=1970&end=2009) Wisconsin Records by Team – Opponent – 62 Total I suggest an apology is in order. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/70 "2010-10-12T20:18:03Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Are there any long-term BCS schools who’ve never played each other? The short answer is that none of the 120 FBS teams have played 120 Opponents (of any affiliation) since 1970. For a longer answer, see [Which FBS Team has played the most FBS Opponents?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580626) ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/71 "2010-10-12T21:18:17Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > The games are in the other team’s home stadium. The continual nitpicking is very telling. Show me an SEC team that regularly plays good teams OOC away from home. Sure. Florida plays Florida State every year. Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year. South Carolina plays Clemson every year. Teams like Wisconsin travel a long ways for OOC games because they have no choice. Sucks for them, but you don’t get hero points for doing what you have no alternative to. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938/72 "2010-10-12T22:10:59Z")
> [@furt](#): > > > [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > > > The games are in the other team’s home stadium. The continual nitpicking is very telling. Show me an SEC team that regularly plays good teams OOC away from home. > > Sure. > > Florida plays Florida State every year. Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year. South Carolina plays Clemson every year. > > Teams like Wisconsin travel a long ways for OOC games because they have no choice. Sucks for them, but you don’t get hero points for doing what you have no alternative to. It is also interesting to note that the nearest non Big 10 Division I team to Madison, Wisconsin is Iowa St (BCS) is 280 miles, and NIU (110 miles). The state of Wisconsin doesn’t even have another Div I-AA football school. Of course Wisconsin has to leave the state to play away non-conference games. They have NO choice. Florida has 5 other Div I teams (3 BCS and 2 BCS) and at least one Div 1-AA school playing football. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-match-ups/554938.md?page=3)