# College football: October 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 1, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281 "2009-10-01T21:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/161 "2009-11-02T18:12:13Z")
> [@BobLibDem as edited by DSYoungEsq](#): > > Special congratulations to the state of Michigan. Not only did all [del]five[/del] six division I schools (Michigan, Michigan State, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, and Eastern Michigan and the Lions) lose this weekend, [del]so did the Lions[/del]. Fixed that for ya. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/162 "2009-11-02T18:15:21Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Yeah, College Basketball, real revenue sucker there. :rolleyes: Iā€™m sick of people bringing up a sport that only has peopleā€™s attention for 2 long weekends out of the year. NCAA Basketball is exactly why the College football powers-that-be donā€™t want to have a playoff. Nobody gives a flying cow patty for regular season college basketball. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/163 "2009-11-02T18:18:47Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Fixed that for ya. šŸ˜‰ Not so sure that one of them isnā€™t NAIA. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/164 "2009-11-02T18:28:49Z")
I think, realistically-speaking, that an 8 team playoff is not going to happen. 4 teams yes, and probably is the best compromise weā€™re going to get. 16 teams means 2 of them will play 4 extra games, which is ~2 too many. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/165 "2009-11-02T19:56:08Z")
Give the BCS some credit, please. It still has major problems, no question, but its creation and every change to it along the way have brought us closer to a playoff system. I donā€™t see how it could happen much faster, given all the money involved in the bowls and their network contracts. Even the current system does match the 2 best teams for the title more often than not. If it finally went to the much-discussed plus-one system, restoring the conference affiliations of the bowls even though none of them would ever be for The Mythical National Championship again, Iā€™d actually be satisfied. The one other thing Iā€™d change in the meanwhile would be to drop the silly computer rankings shit and just have a committee pick the 2 finalists. One rep from each BCS conference, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/166 "2009-11-02T21:08:13Z")
Admittedly, the computers are flawed, but any ā€œcommitteeā€ is going to have its own bias as well. TPTB should let the computers factor a victory margin up to a point differential (ie 21 points) and after that differential is exceeded, there would be diminishing returns. As it stands now, the computers can only factor wins and Strength of Schedule (SOS). Wins and Losses is pretty objective, but the SOS uses subjective assumptions. One program might factor the direct schedule, while other factor in the SOS of secondary and teritiary opponents. And how the computer scales those opponents is subjective. Figures donā€™t lie but liars figure. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/167 "2009-11-02T23:21:44Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Iā€™m sick of people bringing up a sport that only has peopleā€™s attention for 2 long weekends out of the year. NCAA Basketball is exactly why the College football powers-that-be donā€™t want to have a playoff. Nobody gives a flying cow patty for regular season college basketball. This statement is patently untrue. Itā€™s untrue as demonstrated by the saturation of the airwaves with NCAA college basketball (much more than NBA basketball, youā€™ll notice). Itā€™s untrue as demonstrated by the viewership numbers. And itā€™s demonstrated by the changes over the years to maximize television exposure for NCAA basketball during the regular season, which wouldnā€™t be happening if there wasnā€™t a significant viewership there. In contrast, witness the NHL. _You_ may not find it interesting, but most assuredly, others do. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/168 "2009-11-02T23:24:55Z")
Ahemā€¦so, how about those Ducks, huh? Seriously, I think the BCS vs Playoffs debate could have its own thread, if it hasnā€™t already been done to death. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/169 "2009-11-03T00:26:44Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > This statement is patently untrue. Itā€™s untrue as demonstrated by the saturation of the airwaves with NCAA college basketball (much more than NBA basketball, youā€™ll notice). Itā€™s untrue as demonstrated by the viewership numbers. And itā€™s demonstrated by the changes over the years to maximize television exposure for NCAA basketball during the regular season, which wouldnā€™t be happening if there wasnā€™t a significant viewership there. In contrast, witness the NHL. > > _You_ may not find it interesting, but most assuredly, others do. Of course there are people who want to watch it. I figured anyone following along would know that I was comparing the viewership to NCAA football. The money is a fraction of what football pulls in, and it would be beyond stupid for football to emulate their system. Thatā€™s the entire point of the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/170 "2009-11-07T23:53:33Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I think they won like 28-7? Syracuse isnā€™t very good anymore right now, but theyā€™re no Stanford. Iā€™m not sure what you meant with this comparison? I found it weird at the time, and in light of todayā€™s result, itā€™s even less clear. šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![AdmiralCrunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@AdmiralCrunch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AdmiralCrunch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/171 "2009-11-08T01:45:17Z")
Holy hell that was too close for comfort. Paul Johnson has balls of steel and the win to prove it. Coming back from the offsides draw 4th and 1 with a going for it 4th and 1 when the field goal ties it. 0-4 on fourth down before he risks the game. The ACC has been a madhouse this year, and a win over Duke next week puts GT in the title game. Alabama looked much improved against LSU tonight. McElroy was much more comfortable passing and Ingram didnā€™t have to take every snap. He was still indispensable. Clinched a rematch against Florida in Atlanta, but Mississippi St. and Auburn are still on the schedule. Oregon, LSU, and Iowa all lost today, so a Texas loss or a 1-loss SEC champ makes the NC picture murky. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/172 "2009-11-08T02:01:11Z")
I hope that Jahvid Best is okay. That was a scary looking play. He tried hurdling into the endzone and was vaulted high in the air by a defender and landed on his neck/back/head. His helmet was knocked off. At least he got the TD. He was taking oxygen when he was stretchered off the field and taken to the ER. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/173 "2009-11-08T03:04:38Z")
Psst, we are in the [November thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=538464) now! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/174 "2009-11-08T04:51:44Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Iā€™m sick of people bringing up a sport that only has peopleā€™s attention for 2 long weekends out of the year. NCAA Basketball is exactly why the College football powers-that-be donā€™t want to have a playoff. **Nobody gives a flying cow patty for regular season college basketball**. What? I know I do! If you team doesnā€™t take care of business during the regular season, you donā€™t _make_ the field of 64, man. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/175 "2009-11-12T17:37:21Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > What? I know I do! If you team doesnā€™t take care of business during the regular season, you donā€™t _make_ the field of 64, man. That is what hockey and basketball have become. They play 80 games with varying degrees of effort until it gets to play off time. The whole season becomes an exhibition season. I get bored watching NBA games where both teams are sleepwalking for 40 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281/176 "2009-11-12T19:23:41Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Fixed that for ya. šŸ˜‰ **DSYoungEsq** , altering peopleā€™s posts is not allowed, even as jokes. Donā€™t do it, please. **Ellen Cherry Game Room moderator** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-october-2009/512281.md?page=8)