# College football-rivalry week.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 30, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145 "2013-11-30T18:06:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/21 "2013-12-01T01:27:18Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Interesting idea I just read on Twitter.
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> MSU beats Ohio State. FSU QB Winston gets charged in this he said she said mess, would that potentially lead to an Auburn/Alabama rematch?
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> Highly unlikely, I don’t think MSU can beat Ohio State and I think there’s a lot more smoke than fire with this nasty dispute at FSU. I’m an FSU alum so I’m hoping this scenario does not play out, but I’d far rather watch Alabama and Auburn again than Ohio State in the BCS.

? Your Twitter friend is an idiot. Winston getting charged is not going to result in FSU plunging down in the polls. Is there _any_ precedent for that? What if Winston had gotten hurt today? Like season-ending hurt? Would we be #4 tomorrow?  
If we beat Duke (which I think we can do with or without Winston), we’re playing in The Game. We don’t, we won’t. I know people love to spin scenarios, but this one really is that simple.

If OSU loses to MSU, then we’ll be playing Auburn if they beat Mizz/SC or… well, then it starts to get fuzzy. 😉 I suppose 'Bama might be that mix or even Clemson! Holy crap, an all-ACC Nat’l Championship game would cause SEC heads to explode in a manner that would rival the Tunguska Blast of 1908.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/22 "2013-12-01T01:34:24Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Holy crap, an all-ACC Nat’l Championship game would cause SEC heads to explode in a manner that would rival the Tunguska Blast of 1908.

I like the sound of that!

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/23 "2013-12-01T01:38:06Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Good kickers are not easy to find. At some schools they don’t offer scholarships to kickers until after their freshman year. Many kickers start out as walkons or just a partial scholarship. In some cases they find soccer kids and covert them to FB.

That’s the common “wisdom” and I’ve never bought it. A very good punter can change field position by 70 or more yards during a game. That is what a good running back will produce.

An NFL team doesn’t want to “waste” a draft pick on a punter or kicker. Yet, the kicker is typically the highest scorer on the team.

Michigan State’s defense is one of the best in the country. But they also have a punter that consistently pins the other team back behind their 5 or 10 yard line. Field position can become a huge factor in a game. Pin the other team back and when you get the ball back it is at midfield, not deep in your own territory. That highly increased the likelihood of getting into scoring position.

This evening we also saw what the Auburn punter could do. (It wasn’t his fault that Auburn blew coverage when 'Bama was on their own one yard line.) Also, Auburn would be licking their wounds if 'Bama had a better kicker.

I have always felt that punters and kickers are horribly underestimated and unappreciated. But, that’s just me talking.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/24 "2013-12-01T04:37:51Z")

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Former kicker? 😉

Just kidding dude. I tend to agree with you, but after the 1990’s, I doubt you’ll find _any_ FSU fan that underestimates the importance of field goal kicking.\*

- I actually know Gerry Thomas (Wide Right I) and I bleed for him every year when we play The U and he has to hear about it - again (and again and again…).

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/25 "2013-12-01T18:06:39Z")

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What a great day of football!

Mizzou opens as a small favorite over Auburn.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/26 "2013-12-01T18:26:38Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> I have always felt that punters and kickers are horribly underestimated and unappreciated.

I agree, and so does Auburn. I’m an alum, and Auburn always, and I mean always, has a good kicker and a good punter. We actively recruit for that. I don’t understand why more teams don’t.

The X’s and O’s of offense and defense important, but never ever neglect your special teams. If the game is close, you’re going to need 'em.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/27 "2013-12-01T19:06:35Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I don’t understand how teams like Oregon and Alabama can’t recruit a reliable kicker. I don’t expect them to make 50 yard kicks every time, but some of these guys aren’t reliable inside 40, or even 30. You would think a good freshman kicker would jump at the chance to play for a school that is almost always in the national championship hunt, and they only need one new kicker every four years. Are they really that scarce?

Cade Foster was 11 of 12 on the year when he woke up yesterday, and is a genuine NFL prospect as a placekicker. Matt Wogan was the #2 rated kicking prospect in the country.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-rivalry-week/675145/28 "2013-12-01T19:12:50Z")

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