# College Football week 11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 17, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338 "2012-11-17T19:38:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/21 "2012-11-18T05:04:23Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Yes, Same team. That is why it could be Georgia this year. And LSU a three years ago. And Florida 4 years and 6 years ago.
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> Same team indeed.

…and Auburn, many years ago.

That’s 4 teams, as opposed to other conferences, like the Big South (Texas and Oklahoma), the Pac-_xx_ (Southern Cal and Oregon), the Big Ten (Ohio State and Michigan).

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/22 "2012-11-18T05:04:44Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Yes, Same team. That is why it could be Georgia this year. And LSU a three years ago. And Florida 4 years and 6 years ago.
> 
> Same team indeed.

If it’s Georgia, I won’t care. I only care if it’s Alabama, because they’ve been in the title game 2 of the last 3 years.

Despite having general disdain for the SEC I’m more than able to admit that they’re the best conference in the country. But I want 3 things out of the title game:

1. Different teams every year

2. To spread the wealth, and

3. A team with an entertaining play style (purely subjective, obviously)

Alabama fails all these tests.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/23 "2012-11-18T05:09:39Z")

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> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> Hypothetical question #2: Let’s say Notre Dame loses and Alabama wins the SEC championship, is there any chance that Florida makes the NCG? I say no, but it’s a scenario that I heard proposed.
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> Oh yeah, Roll Tide, and Go SEC!

Outside shot I suppose, but the Gators have a date in Tallahassee next Saturday afternoon. I do not think that they will win that game.

Florida will be hurt in SoS by not playing in a Conference Championship game.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/24 "2012-11-18T05:12:03Z")

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> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> …and Auburn, many years ago.
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> That’s 4 teams, as opposed to other conferences, like the Big South (Texas and Oklahoma), the Pac-_xx_ (Southern Cal and Oregon), the Big Ten (Ohio State and Michigan).

Auburn was two years ago. And were the odd team out in 2003. Tennessee won a NC in the late 90’s.

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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/25 "2012-11-18T05:25:38Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Auburn was two years ago. And were the odd team out in 2003. Tennessee won a NC in the late 90’s.

I hope you realize that “many” was sarcasim.

Poll prediction Question #3: Will Notre Dame be the the unanimous #1 team in the polls tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/26 "2012-11-18T05:29:50Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> 52-24
> 
> Yeah baby.

Thank you, Baylor. Roll Tide!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/27 "2012-11-18T05:37:28Z")

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BCS Projections according to Brad Edwards (ESPN CFB Insider) on his [twitter account](https://twitter.com/JBradEdwards).

1. Notre Dame, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Florida, 5. Oregon

He hedged his #5 pick by saying:

> [@](#):
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> “Truth is, 5th is a wild guess. I think KSU will be behind Oregon & FSU in polls but much better in computers.”

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/28 "2012-11-18T05:38:55Z")

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> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> Poll prediction Question #3: Will Notre Dame be the the unanimous #1 team in the polls tomorrow?

No. Ohio State (not bowl eligible) is still undefeated. AP poll can still vote for them.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/29 "2012-11-18T05:40:31Z")

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> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> My dad and I are having a debate. Please place your votes before the polls come out. My dad says that it’s an absolute given that Georgia will be ranked #3 tomorrow. I say Oregon will be #3.

If Alabama fell 3 spots from #1, Oregon is almost certainly going to fall below #4.

> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> Poll prediction Question #3: Will Notre Dame be the the unanimous #1 team in the polls tomorrow?

AP? Maybe. Coaches? No, as they weren’t a unanimous #3 last week. (They were 11 points short.)

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/30 "2012-11-18T05:57:46Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> The SEC embarrassed themselves not by their play but by their schedule. OOC foes today:  
> Jacksonville State  
> Samford  
> Syracuse (ok, not THAT bad)  
> Sam Houston State  
> Alabama A&M  
> Wofford  
> Georgia Southern  
> West Carolina
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> I’d like to see a rule that you get at most one OOC game against a non-major conference plus have to play at least one OOC game on the road.

I agree that the SEC schedule today looks a lot like Georgia Tech vs Cumberland BUT I’d like to make a few points that I think mitigate things a bit. First remember that the visiting team gets a wad of cash for showing up, that is a major source of funding for their entire athletics program. Also notice that four of those games were against FCS schools from the same state (UGA, USC, A&M and Auburn). Apparently USC always schedules their FCS game in-state, it’s Coastal Carolina next year! Also, I just found this out today, but the SEC requires that all teams play on Thanksgiving weekend. Since most teams have big rivalry games to end the season, they schedule FCS teams in the penultimate game as a rest week (or in UGA’s case to figure out the option before playing GaTech).

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/31 "2012-11-18T06:06:54Z")

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The SEC also schedules Conference games in Week 1 and Week 2 of the season which affords them the opportunity to have “Homecoming” Games in November.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/32 "2012-11-18T06:25:56Z")

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Two SEC Questions:

1)Any chance of a “Cocktail Party” National Title Game?  
2)WTH happened to Tennessee? National Champ to doormat in 10 years!

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/33 "2012-11-18T07:09:48Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Two SEC Questions:
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> 1)Any chance of a “Cocktail Party” National Title Game?  
> 2)WTH happened to Tennessee? National Champ to doormat in 10 years!

14 years. 😉

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/34 "2012-11-18T07:43:08Z")

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Pfffhahahahahahahahahaha! The “Alabama Crimson Died” says hi!

Roll Tide!

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/35 "2012-11-18T07:49:03Z")

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The prophesier has spoken true, The end of the world is nigh. The curse of the almighty powers is upon us. We have sinned against the will of all creation. The only undefeated teams are Notre Damn and Ohio. We will be lucky to make it to Dec 12, before all ends in misery, because we must look to Sa[del]t[/del]ban to save us from the insufferingly insufferable Hell that is … unspeakable.

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**Author:** ![Fred\_Garvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c67d28/32.png) [@Fred\_Garvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred_Garvin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/36 "2012-11-18T16:05:20Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> I was in Baylor Stadium about 13 years ago when Bill Snyder had Michael Bishop as QB and up 40 or so points near game end K State called a timeout with a second left so that on the last play they could run up the score to help their national ranking. Classless play and I’ve despised Snyder ever since.
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> Schadenfreude? Out the fucking yingyang.

That is just totally ridiculous. K-State was undefeated and in a dog fight with a few other teams for the top spot at the time. They needed as much help as they could in the rankings and if that meant running up the score against perennial doormats, Baylor, then Snyder had an obligation to do so. Any other coach would have done the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/37 "2012-11-18T17:29:20Z")

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And IIRC, that was one of the games that led to the margin of victory being removed from several of the polls.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/38 "2012-11-18T18:58:31Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> If Alabama fell 3 spots from #1, Oregon is almost certainly going to fall below #4.

Don’t know yet about the rest of the BCS, but the coaches have them at #4, although it’s a “close” #4.

> [@](#):
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> AP? Maybe. Coaches? No, as they weren’t a unanimous #3 last week. (They were 11 points short.)

AP has Notre Dame a unanimous #1. Two coaches voted for Alabama, and one for Georgia.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Goliath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rex\_Goliath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Goliath)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/39 "2012-11-18T21:55:55Z")

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**Alabama Crimson Revived.**

Haters gonna hate. Roll Tide.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-football-week-11/641338/40 "2012-11-19T02:59:33Z")

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And just to make 'er official, Bama takes #2 in the new BCS standings.

> **[Notre Dame, Alabama sit 1-2 in BCS standings](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/8650519/bcs-standings-notre-dame-fighting-irish-alabama-crimson-tide-sit-1-2)**
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> After a day of upsets, Notre Dame is No. 1 in the land and the SEC has regained it superiority near the top of the BCS standings.

😃

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