# College is against your religion? Then why are you in it? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 1, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736 "2012-06-01T04:48:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/41 "2012-06-02T00:27:18Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Really. What’s up with all the FTFYs here this past day? Do people think that because they can do it on other boards, even one with a real stick up its ass otherwise (not **giraffe** ’s board–he has something else up his ass 😉 ), they can do it here? :mad: 😛 Well, in my case, I didn’t realize I was here because Giraffe and the Dope both look exactly the same in Tapatalk. It was only after I posted it that I realized where it actually was, and didn’t have the opportunity to fix it before the 5 minutes were up. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/42 "2012-06-02T01:13:20Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Really. What’s up with all the FTFYs here this past day? Do people think that because they can do it on other boards, even one with a real stick up its ass otherwise (not **giraffe** ’s board–he has something else up his ass 😉 ), they can do it here? :mad: 😛 I know I’m incensed, especially since I have no idea what that is. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/43 "2012-06-02T01:49:48Z")
“FTFY” is internet for “fixed that for you” and is used to change the wording of a quote to something the original poster did not intend. It can be done for fun as **jayjay** did, as a simple spelling or factual correction, or as a form of attack on the poster by twisting his words. I assume the latter is why it is not permitted here between quote tags. Had there been a proper quote of **Kimstu** followed by \*Originally Posted by **Kimstu** “We hardly ever bother making our own [del]music technical terms[/del] words if we can borrow one from the [del]Italians[/del] ancient Romans or the French.” FTFY \* in plain quotation marks I assume the mods would have no problem. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/44 "2012-06-02T02:11:48Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > “FTFY” is internet for “fixed that for you” . Well, shit thats a letdown. I thought it had something cool to do with fuck or fucking and testicles and something else cool that started with a Y. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/45 "2012-06-02T03:07:39Z")
> [@](#): > > “FTFY” is internet for “fixed that for you” and is used to change the wording of a quote to something the original poster did not intend. It can be done for fun as **jayjay** did, as a simple spelling or factual correction, or as a form of attack on the poster by twisting his words. I assume the latter is why it is not permitted here between quote tags. IIRC, the rule came about because people were altering quotes WITHOUT noting that they’d been altered. That is, without saying “FTFY” or “bolding mine” or anything else. And usually it was an attack on another poster. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/46 "2012-06-02T03:12:14Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > “We hardly ever bother making our own [del]music technical terms[/del] words if we can borrow one from the [del]Italians[/del] ancient Romans or the French.” Or Spanish. Or Greek. Or several Native American languages. Or Yiddish. Or… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/47 "2012-06-02T04:25:50Z")
Y’know, this makes me wonder… what is to be of the wackfringe fundamentalist attending Duke (Blue Devils) or Wake Forest (Demon Deacons)? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/48 "2012-06-02T06:07:08Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > It’s hard for me to read stuff like this and not remember one of my fellow college students. > > I went to music school. Writing arrangements of standard jazz tunes was pretty core to the curriculum. One born-again drummer did an arrangement of Dave Brubeck’s _Take Five_. But 5/4 is the devil’s time signature, so he rewrote it in 4/4. > > Yeah, it sounded every bit as wrong as you’re now imagining. That’s funny, because 4/4 was actually historically considered the problem. All sacred works had to be written in 3/4, as 3 was a holy number. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/49 "2012-06-02T07:41:26Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That’s funny, because 4/4 was actually historically considered the problem. All sacred works had to be written in 3/4, as 3 was a holy number. Thou shalt not tap thy foot at 2 unless it be to immediately proceed to 3. ---
**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/50 "2012-06-02T11:34:00Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I posted here a year or so ago about a student on my campus who went to the dept. head and dean because her English prof would not give her an alternate assignment. The assignment was to view, among others, a film that was rated R. > AFAIK, she was the only student I had ever heard of who raised a fuss about such a thing. The admins sided with the prof, so the student dropped the class. > > What gets me is the tunnel vision. All she could focus on was the R rating, not the content or message or meaning/theme. I’m an English (as a foreign language) teacher at a high school here in Troll Country, and have had some fun explaining to my students that “The King’s Speech”, a mild and life-affirming movie if there ever was one, got an R rating in the US because of all the naughty words used in the speech therapy sessions. (Here? It was listed as permitted for all audiences, with a note that the subject matter would be of little interest to children.) Not all R ratings are created equal. Back in April we showed the movie “Blood Diamond” in class and assigned a writing project in connection with it, something we have done for several years now. Mindful of the fact that the attack at Utøya last summer touched teenagers more than any other group, we warned our students ahead of time (without specifically mentioning Utøya) that it is a very violent and emotionally powerful movie. If anyone had expressed concerns, we teachers were ready to offer an alternative. To my surprise, no one did. I would have understood it if they had. But to simply say that the film got a 15 year rating and “I don’t watch films with 15 year ratings, it’s against my religion”? Yeah, you’re 18 or soon will be. Put on your big boy/girl pants and deal. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/51 "2012-06-02T16:47:55Z")
> [@flodnak](#): > > I’m an English (as a foreign language) teacher at a high school here in Troll Country, and have had some fun explaining to my students that “The King’s Speech”, a mild and life-affirming movie if there ever was one, got an R rating in the US because of all the naughty words used in the speech therapy sessions. (Here? It was listed as permitted for all audiences, with a note that the subject matter would be of little interest to children.) Not all R ratings are created equal. > > . I tried to explain this concept, regarding the very same film, to a student in my class as well, but she wouldn’t budge. Students like this are going to have a rough time in college, if they even make it through at all. ---
**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/52 "2012-06-02T23:47:58Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > She wasn’t comfortable with the idea of watching an R-rated film and had made it a “lifelong commitment” never to watch one. In fact, an actual Catholic movie review site called Decent Films posted an entire [**article**](http://www.decentfilms.com/articles/decentfilms) about why this makes no sense. > [@](#): > > Still others, displaying almost religious faith in the authority of the MPAA, seem to consider an “R” rating a virtually infallible form of reverse imprimatur (though recently with a unique exception clause for _one_ R-rated movie, Mel Gibson’s _The Passion of the Christ_). ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/53 "2012-06-03T04:07:05Z")
> [@ricksummon](#): > > In fact, an actual Catholic movie review site called Decent Films posted an entire [**article**](http://www.decentfilms.com/articles/decentfilms) about why this makes no sense. I’ve tried demonstrating this in class, drawing a big R at the top center of the whiteboard, then putting films like **The King’s Speech** at the far left and others like **The Passion of the Christ** and **A Clockwork Orange** at the far right, with a bunch of other in the middle all along the spectrum, making note of which ones have profanity but no violence, violence but no profanity, violence but sexual content, have all three, etc. I hope it helps. It seemed to–this semester, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/54 "2012-06-03T09:57:40Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I’ve tried demonstrating this in class, drawing a big R at the top center of the whiteboard, then putting films like **The King’s Speech** at the far left and others like **The Passion of the Christ** and **A Clockwork Orange** at the far right, with a bunch of other in the middle all along the spectrum, making note of which ones have profanity but no violence, violence but no profanity, violence but sexual content, have all three, etc. > > I hope it helps. It seemed to–this semester, anyway. I’d rather see it as a Venn diagram. Bad line depictions are against my religion. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736/55 "2012-06-04T02:03:33Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I’d rather see it as a Venn diagram. Bad line depictions are against my religion. I was just about to post the same thing. I’ve discovered _ANY_thing can be expressed in Venn diagrams. And any decision, even tough ones… “Jeepers, I’ve gotta eat healthier” So, VENN DIAGRAM to the rescue! “Things that are good” vs “Things that are good for you” And… eat the things in the middle. (Lost 10 lbs. with that, and got to eat a lot of melon and steak and strawberries) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-is-against-your-religion-then-why-are-you-in-it/623736.md?page=2)