# College Republican punches Kerry supporting teacher's foot with his leg **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2004, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296 "2004-11-01T10:59:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/21 "2004-11-01T15:26:57Z")
Even more “[more stupid and desperate than evil](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/florida.gasmask.flyer.pdf)” anti-Kerry stuff, also from Florida. ( **Warning: large PDF.** ) Thanks to Josh Marshall for this one. Underneath a photo of kids in gas masks, it says: > [@](#): > > (AP) Florida Red Zone – August 14th, 2007 – President Kerry warned parents and children in South Florida that mandatory radiation and chemical gear would be required to be worn “for the forseeable future” since the Suitcase Dirty Bomb terrorist attack on South Florida in the spring. The first day of school was chaotic, as teachers and school officials attempted to bring some … ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/22 "2004-11-01T15:44:27Z")
Oh, no! You mean, people other than The Onion and the Daily Show are writing stuff like that!? :eek: That’s what happens when people run with scissors. ---
**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/23 "2004-11-01T15:49:58Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Oh, it’s just a good-natured asteismus epitrope. You know, sometimes I find you confusing and sometimes I find you infuriating and sometimes I just think you’re batshit crazy, but I can at least say I learned two new words today. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/24 "2004-11-01T16:06:13Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Oh, no! You mean, people other than The Onion and the Daily Show are writing stuff like that!? :eek: That’s what happens when people run with scissors. Yeah, that’s really comparable, **Lib**. Oh, wait, I mean the precise opposite of comparable. Deliberate stupidity is not your soundest milieu, m’man. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/25 "2004-11-01T16:08:38Z")
> [@Desmostylus](#): > > OK. Here’s the actual story. > > Some white racist asshole pubbie shows up wearing a T-Shirt that says “College Republicans: Work for us now … or work for us later”. He gets a kick in the shins from a Latino teacher. Boo fucking hoo. > > Shove your “tolerance and acceptance” up your ass, you sad, sorry, fuck. _Quod erat demonstrandum_, liberals. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/26 "2004-11-01T16:09:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > _Quod erat demonstrandum_, liberals. Only accepting a begged question, Rick. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/27 "2004-11-01T16:10:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > _Quod erat demonstrandum_, liberals. Egads! Proof of **two** hotheaded liberals out there! My world view is crumbling around my shoulders. When will the madness end? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/28 "2004-11-01T16:13:03Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > I’d like to know **Bricker** ’s reaction to widespread chicanery by the GOP. Since he’ so shocked and horrifed by one Democratic partisan’s misbehavior, I’m sure he’ll denounce massive vote suppression and downright fraud orchestrated by the RNC. There’s another thread going on that comments on some of these issues. In it, I have condemned the use of a voter list that purported to exclude felons, but apparently had tens of thousands of African-Americans and only 61 Hispanics on it. I have condemned the enforcement of a rule requiring 80# bond paper for voter registrations, and the rejection of all registrations not complying with that rule, even though the rejected registrations were printed on paper approved by local elections boards. However, I agree with the rules requiring that actual ex-felons be denied the vote (in such states as have that rule) and I agree that non-citizens should not be permitted to vote. I’ll be happy to comment on - and condemn if warranted - any particular incident you wish to bring to my attention. - Rick ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/29 "2004-11-01T16:15:30Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Egads! Proof of **two** hotheaded liberals out there! > > My world view is crumbling around my shoulders. When will the madness end? > > Daniel Well, yes. This demonstrates two idiotic people that probably self-identify as liberals: the part-time teacher in the story and **Desmostylus**. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/30 "2004-11-01T16:17:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > There’s another thread going on that comments on some of these issues. In it, I have condemned the use of a voter list that purported to exclude felons, but apparently had tens of thousands of African-Americans and only 61 Hispanics on it. I have condemned the enforcement of a rule requiring 80# bond paper for voter registrations, and the rejection of all registrations not complying with that rule, even though the rejected registrations were printed on paper approved by local elections boards. More pointedly, have you posted anything along the lines of, “Another PR hit for the responsibility, tough-on-crime political party. Man, that’s a shame”? Because, after all, those incidents involve members of the Republican party. The incident here just consists of two assholes being jerks to one another. The one who was the bigger jerk (the shin-kicker) apologized for it; the one who was being the smaller jerk (the insult-wearer) is trying to parlay it into a national incident. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/31 "2004-11-01T16:24:38Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Well, yes. This demonstrates two idiotic people that probably self-identify as liberals: the part-time teacher in the story and **Desmostylus**. I don’t deny that there are hotheaded idiots who self-identify as liberals. I just don’t see a shin-kicking incident as remotely newsworthy. If she’d shot him, sure. If two dozen hotheaded idiot liberals descend on a rightwing newspaper factory and beat up the editor, by all means we should hear about it. Hell, if some Democratic dumbass steals all the copies of a rightwing free weekly from the stands all over town, **that’s** news. This is not. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![NotMrKnowItAll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6bbea6/32.png) [@NotMrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotMrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/32 "2004-11-01T16:31:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Well, yes. This demonstrates two idiotic people that probably self-identify as liberals: the part-time teacher in the story and **Desmostylus**. Maybe **Desmostylus** confused this Mark O’Donnell with the [convicted racist Mark O’Donnell](http://www.greeleytrib.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040930/NEWS/109300038/0/FRONTPAGE&rs=2). Both in Colorado, one UNC, one Fort Lewis College. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/33 "2004-11-01T16:34:35Z")
For those who can’t understand the OP here’s a summary of what happened. A college student was wearing a mildly offensive pro-Republican t-shirt. A teacher took offense to it and kicked him in the leg. The teacher has been charged with a misdemeanor. The teacher and the school have apologized to the student. The student says he plans to sue the school. Some would say this was a minor incident and is mostly over with. Liberal seems to feel there was no sufficient backlash against the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/34 "2004-11-01T16:40:16Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > Liberal seems to feel there was no sufficient backlash against the Democrats. Hey, it was okay until she said she wished she’d gone for his balls. If Democrats had any, you’d understand. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/35 "2004-11-01T16:42:16Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > A college student was wearing a mildly offensive pro-Republican t-shirt. A teacher took offense to it and kicked him in the leg. May I clarify? **Some guy** was **showing off** a mildly offensive pro-Republican t-shirt **at a restaurant**. A **woman** took offense to it and kicked him in the leg. **Coincidentally, he was a student at the school where she was a part-time instructor**. In other words, this has nothing at all to do with the university. If some guy at a bar gropes me, and later I find out that he and I work for the same company, I can’t sue the company for sexual harrassment. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/36 "2004-11-01T16:43:13Z")
Lib, I don’t get it. These were the actions of one teacher and one student… and there wasn’t enough backlash against the entire Democratic party? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/37 "2004-11-01T16:44:08Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Hey, it was okay until she said she wished she’d gone for his balls. If Democrats had any, you’d understand. Whereas you’re an expert on hitting below the belt. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/38 "2004-11-01T17:01:37Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > More pointedly, have you posted anything along the lines of, “Another PR hit for the responsibility, tough-on-crime political party. Man, that’s a shame”? No. But frankly, actions like the voter questioning don’t exactly fly in the face of “responsibility” and “tough-on-crime” designations for the most part. If, for example, you allege voter intimidation because cops are placed outside polling places, the “responsibility” and “tough on crime” approach would be to shrug. After all, what have law-abiding folk to fear from the presence of police? If you allege that voters are being slowed by challenges to their legitimacy, the “responsibility” and “tough on crime” approach would be that each voter should shoulder through, demanding their right to cast provisional ballots and clear up the misunderstanding. So actions that may intimidate, or discourage, voters, as long as they do not constitute an actual ban or insurmountable barrier, and as long as they are arguably legal, do not offend the “responsibility” and “tough on crime” mentality. In contrast, when a party that preaches tolerance and acceptance has members that will kick a person for advertising a different view, that’s much more of a departure - much more in the realm of hypocriscy. - Rick ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/39 "2004-11-01T17:02:22Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > Lib, I don’t get it. These were the actions of \*\* [Diner, who turned out later to be a teacher]\*\* and **[another diner who later turned out to be a student at the same school]**… and there wasn’t enough backlash against the entire Democratic party? 😕 Honestly, this has nothing to do with the school, this had nothing to do with the democratic party. This has to do with 2 people who were being assholes-one who was openly goading a crowd of people in public, and one who wasn’t sufficiently strong enough to resist reacting. Only small-minded pricks will associate this with the whole of either party, or even involve the school or the teacher’s standing as an instructor. I don’t indict the entire Republican party for his less-than-tasteful behavior, I don’t indict the entire Democratic party for the knee-jerk reactions of one person. I do find it funny how both of them are acting like _people_ and as such are defying their stereotypes politically. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296/40 "2004-11-01T17:07:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But frankly, actions like the voter questioning don’t exactly fly in the face of “responsibility” and “tough-on-crime” designations for the most part. If, for example, you allege voter intimidation because cops are placed outside polling places, the “responsibility” and “tough on crime” approach would be to shrug. Apples and oranges, Rick: I was responding to your point that > [@](#): > > have condemned the use of a voter list that purported to exclude felons, but apparently had tens of thousands of African-Americans and only 61 Hispanics on it. I have condemned the enforcement of a rule requiring 80# bond paper for voter registrations, and the rejection of all registrations not complying with that rule, even though the rejected registrations were printed on paper approved by local elections boards. These aren’t cases of voter intimidation; these are cases that are voter disenfranchisement, and sure look like they might be criminal voter disenfranchisement. Yet I’ve heard very little from the Republican party calling for a full investigation of these events, calling for vigorous prosecution of anyone committing a crime in connection with them. THAT’s the hypocrisy I’m talking about. Daniel [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-republican-punches-kerry-supporting-teachers-foot-with-his-leg/272296.md?page=3)