# College Station, Texas shooting
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 13, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402 "2012-08-13T19:46:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/221 "2012-08-16T23:58:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> In fairness, have you ever tried resisting tyranny with a high gravity pale ale?
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> Well I have, and let me tell you, it’s hard to even _focus_ on jackbooted thugs and the New World Order when you’re loaded with that kind of weaponry.
Think of how hard it would be for the New World Order to focus with a couple of pints in them. Wouldn’t be able to get the jackboots on. Have to wear jacksandals or jackcrocs.
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### Author:  [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/222 "2012-08-17T12:44:22Z")
I heard over the radio that some gun nut shot himself in the ass in a movie house, then stood up, excused himself, and left.
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### Author:  [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/223 "2012-08-17T13:20:36Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> However I’m also sure if you have a case of beer in your fridge you aren’t going to drink and a buddy is over at your house and you offer to sell it to him for $10 and he buys it…no way in the world you’ll ever be arrested or prosecuted for that.
[Hrmm](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county)?
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### Author:  [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/224 "2012-08-17T13:47:59Z")
Hrmm all you want, that has virtually nothing to do with what I just talked about. A dry county is basically a county where you can’t legally sell alcohol, either in a store or a restaurant/bar or both.
In the context of dry counties “off-premises” refers to supermarkets / beer distributor stores / liquor stores selling alcohol for you to take home. “On-premises” refers to drinking establishments that sell alcohol to be consumed on-site.
No, my point was that in **probably the entire United States** it is illegal for **me personally** to sell beer out of my private fridge to a friend of mine for $10. I don’t know of anywhere in the U.S. where you can sell beer or liquor without a license, even in “wet” counties.
So my point was that:
1. You could add a requirement that only licensed gun dealers be allowed to sell firearms, akin to the requirement that only licensed alcohol purveyors sell alcohol.
2. Those laws create situations like I mentioned above, in which the law is basically meaningless because it is unenforceable. Namely in scenarios in which one individual is just selling something to a friend, one time, in small quantity.
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/225 "2012-08-17T16:43:41Z")
> [@Muffin](#):
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> I heard over the radio that some gun nut shot himself in the ass in a movie house, then stood up, excused himself, and left.
See? An armed society _is_ a polite society!
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### Author:  [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/226 "2012-08-17T21:33:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> See? An armed society _is_ a polite society!
Win!
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### Author:  [@CoffinMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoffinMan)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/227 "2012-08-24T18:46:24Z")
In Japan, where guns are generally a non-issue since ownership is pretty much prohibited, there are still cases of mass attacks resulting in high numbers of injuries and deaths. Guy with a knife and a bad attitude plows his truck into a crowd and then stabs 17 people before being taken down. At least seven dead, and all without the benefit of firearms.
[http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-08-stabbing-tokyo\_N.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-08-stabbing-tokyo_N.htm)
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### Author:  [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/228 "2012-08-24T19:24:31Z")
Sixty mass shootings in 30 years in The States. How many mass plowing-a-car-into-a-crowd-and-then-get-out-and-stab-everybody’s have there been in Japan in that time?
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/229 "2012-08-24T19:33:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Sixty mass shootings in 30 years in The States. How many mass plowing-a-car-into-a-crowd-and-then-get-out-and-stab-everybody’s have there been in Japan in that time?
I couldn’t find the stats for 30 years, but here are the executions for multiple murders since 1999 - that’s 13 years:
> **[Capital punishment in Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Japan#Executions_since_1993)**
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> Capital punishment is a legal penalty in Japan. The Penal Code of Japan and several laws list 14 capital crimes. In practice, though, it is applied only for aggravated murder. Executions are carried out by long drop hanging, and take place at one of the seven execution chambers located in major cities across the country. The only crime punishable by a mandatory death sentence is instigation of foreign aggression.
> Death sentences are usually passed in cases of multiple murders, although there...
I count 60 "multiple murder"ers executed. And that’s those that were put on trial and sentenced to death (how many were killed at the scene?). This number excludes the cases where murders occurred while on parole for another murder.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/230 "2012-08-24T19:43:37Z")
In what possible way is this:
> [@Terr](#):
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> I couldn’t find the stats for 30 years, but here are the executions for multiple murders since 1999 - that’s 13 years:
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> [Capital punishment in Japan - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Japan#Executions_since_1993)
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> I count 60 "multiple murder"ers executed. And that’s those that were put on trial and sentenced to death (how many were killed at the scene?). This number excludes the cases where murders occurred while on parole for another murder.
a response to this:
> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Sixty mass shootings in 30 years in The States. How many mass plowing-a-car-into-a-crowd-and-then-get-out-and-stab-everybody’s have there been in Japan in that time?
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### Author:  [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/231 "2012-08-24T20:20:43Z")
No kidding. If we want to add in your general run-of-the-mill U.S. multiple murderers, I’m pretty sure we’ll come up with a few more than 60.
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### Author:  [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-station-texas-shooting/631402/232 "2012-08-25T11:42:33Z")
and we could always compare the i[ntentional homicide rate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate) to determine whether it’s more dangerous to live in Japan or the US (barring particularly susceptible demographics).
Japan comes in at 0.4 murders for every 100k citizens a year. The US comes in at 4.2.
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