# Collibri's latest mod note. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 27, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409 "2016-03-27T22:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/21 "2016-03-28T03:51:24Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Given that the OP included pointing out that he had, in fact, called the number, for **Derleth** to say “Laugh about how stupid you’d have to be to fall for such a transparent ploy” meant that he was calling **dm** stupid. And another person who didn’t read the post. I said that calling the number was smart, given that it wastes the scammers’ time and money, and that only giving them money and/or financial information would be stupid. Which anyone who read my post would know. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/22 "2016-03-28T03:53:32Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > I don’t understand how anyone could read **Derleth** ’s post and _not_ comprehend how it could possibly be interpreted as insulting. Absolutely anything can be interpreted as insulting, especially when people refuse to read the whole post. Honestly. People make anti-autistic statements in this very forum and don’t get one peep, and I get dinged for an insult I never actually made. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/23 "2016-03-28T04:11:48Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Except mind-reading is exactly the problem. > > I don’t have a problem wtih the initial note. Even mods read things wrong sometimes. I have a problem with the part where **Derleth** explains what he meant, and **Colibri** , rather than admit he might have made a mistake, accused him of trying to game the system. > > Somehow, despite the text of post saying something completely different, **Colibri** was able to mind-read what **Derleth** really meant. > > It’s an all too common problem–seeing posters as the enemy, and seeing criticism an attempt to get away with something. **Derleth** was lucky he didn’t get a warning for complaining about moderation in a non-ATMB forum. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/24 "2016-03-28T04:26:20Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Absolutely anything can be interpreted as insulting, especially when people refuse to read the whole post. > > Honestly. People make anti-autistic statements in this very forum and don’t get one peep, and I get dinged for an insult I never actually made. Correction… You didn’t get dinged. You were _politely_ asked to avoid posting like you had posted and return to the topic of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/25 "2016-03-28T05:39:31Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Correction… > > You didn’t get dinged. You were _politely_ asked to avoid posting like you had posted and return to the topic of the thread. A post that was just fine, explicitly NOT aimed at the OP, and explicitly answering a question the OP asked in a post. And then Derleth gets accused of trying to weasel around with backhanded jabs. Anyone who thinks there was any kind of jab/insult/whatever needs to actually read what was posted. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/26 "2016-03-28T13:06:04Z")
I don’t understand this either. He specifically noted in his post that he was talking about people who paid, which did not include **dougie**. The only people he insulted are hypothetical victims of this scam. > [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Any Dopers who read my posts–and the replies thereto–can assess the issue themselves. I don’t think I am exaggerating to say that some of them have made me something of a figurative punching bag. Your posts on religion when you first joined all but demanded that they do so. It takes some people a while to move on from first impressions. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/27 "2016-03-28T14:49:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t understand this either. He specifically noted in his post that he was talking about people who paid, which did not include **dougie**. The only people he insulted are hypothetical victims of this scam. > > Your posts on religion when you first joined all but demanded that they do so. It takes some people a while to move on from first impressions. Yes, and sometimes they are never able to shake hide-bound prejudices. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/28 "2016-03-28T17:07:50Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > and directly contradicted some of the advice given by the FBI. …can you please link to the post in that thread of the FBIs advice? I must have missed it. Clearly **Derleth** was not calling **dm** stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/29 "2016-03-28T18:45:35Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Well, if you think I use threats, take a look at what leads up to the alleged “threats.” Maybe I can’t be assumed right off to see things your way. So? “They started it!” isn’t a valid excuse, dude. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/30 "2016-03-28T19:17:37Z")
If someone calls me a son of a bitch I will not sit here sucking my thumb. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/31 "2016-03-28T19:29:35Z")
Will you do a wheelie on your motorcycle? Those are cool. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/32 "2016-03-28T20:04:46Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > If someone calls me a son of a bitch I will not sit here sucking my thumb. Mods, I _implore_ you to consider giving me a special dispensation for setup lines as irresistible as this… ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/33 "2016-03-28T20:14:05Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > If someone calls me a son of a bitch I will not sit here sucking my thumb. Nobody called you a son of a bitch. Chances are they won’t call you a name anywhere except in the Pit. In which case, you are allowed to respond in kind. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/34 "2016-03-28T21:56:02Z")
It would be easy for me to claim that I would not descend to others’ level, but I know that I too am subject to human failings. I would, however, invite anyone who claims that I am an instigator to assess their own posts that immediately precede mine that they would criticize me for, and ask themselves if maybe I could really be faulted for forgetting my manners–especially as thin-skinned as they know I am. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/35 "2016-03-28T23:57:16Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > It would be easy for me to claim that I would not descend to others’ level, but I know that I too am subject to human failings. > I would, however, invite anyone who claims that I am an instigator to assess their own posts that immediately precede mine that they would criticize me for, and ask themselves if maybe I could really be faulted for forgetting my manners–especially as thin-skinned as they know I am. No, I’m not going to “ask myself if maybe you could really be faulted”. Other people here manage to avoid threatening people in response all the time. If you’re too thin-skinned, you need to stay out of the Pit, or if you must respond, try doing it WITHOUT threatening someone. Really, it is possible! (Seriously, I’ve been insulted far, far worse. Suck it up, buttercup) You’re responsible for your own behavior, and the “well, I’m only human!” shouldn’t cut it. Why should you get special treatment? If you can’t deal with it, maybe the internet isn’t for you. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/36 "2016-03-29T00:03:58Z")
I don’t think **dougie\_monty** ’s possible thin-skinnedness, or reputation for past behavior, is really appropriate in ATMB. YMMV, but mod’s might, too. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/37 "2016-03-29T00:17:39Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > . . . ask themselves if maybe I could really be faulted for forgetting my manners–especially as thin-skinned as they know I am. As far as I’m concerned, of course you can be faulted for forgetting your manners, **especially** if you know you’re thin-skinned. You know you have this bad trait, you’re the one who should be taking extra care about it, making extra allowances. It’s not up to other people to walk on eggshells around you because of your faults, it’s up to you to be extra careful not to let your faults take control of you. That’s basic human behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/38 "2016-03-29T00:31:37Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > As you pointed out Dreleth got the answer to the question wrong in some circumstances. Nobody mentioned Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency, which is the only way _I’ve_ ever heard of the ransomware scam working. It’s possible there are some people out there rock-stupid enough to make ransomware such that their collection of the ransom can be traced back to them, but from everything I’ve heard cryptocurrency is how ransomware is done. Therefore, ransomware isn’t on my mind when a popup mandates calling a phone number (which can also be traced back to someone, _and_ means they have contacts in the country) and the call requests bank information. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/39 "2016-03-29T00:40:53Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Nobody mentioned Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency, which is the only way _I’ve_ ever heard of the ransomware scam working. This, I think, is a dodge. The currency of the fee wasn’t mentioned–and if I were handling ransomware, I wouldn’t mention the bitcoin part until the mark was well and truly hooked and committed to paying, because most marks will have no idea how to use Bitcoin, and you don’t want to scare them away before they’ve decided to pay. **Dougie** apparently hung up as soon as a fee was mentioned. If you were concerned about the presence or absence of Bitcoin, you should have asked, or at least qualified your statement. As it was, you gave incomplete and potentially harmful advice. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409/40 "2016-03-29T00:55:55Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Mods, I _implore_ you to consider giving me a special dispensation for setup lines as irresistible as this… Whisper in my ear. I won’t tell a soul. Except maybe Colibri. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collibris-latest-mod-note/750409.md?page=3)