# Collounsbury, 6-3-2000 to 11-28-2002

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 2, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027 "2002-12-02T20:10:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
**Page:** 21

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/401 "2003-07-31T23:43:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Boo Boo Foo \*
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> \*\*My opinion? There’s no way you can say that Coll was going out of his way to start trouble that night. No way. He was merely responding to people who were baiting him, and I genuinely believe he didn’t realise he was no longer in the Pit and maintained the vibe, as it were. \*\*

How can you say “there’s no way [I or anyone else] can say” _anything_ about some third-party poster’s motives? First of all, you’re only _guessing_ that he reads posts via e-mail notification. I sure don’t do it that way and no one has any way to know that except the poster, themselves. Secondly, I would _maybe_ buy your argument, except for one niggling little detail… the thread in question was **started by Collounsbury**. It was _his_ thread. For all the argument here about how bright a man he is, you can’t make me believe that he suddenly put on the stupid hat and forgot what forum he posted his own damn thread in. Sorry, I’m not buying it.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/402 "2003-07-31T23:44:02Z")

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Hey hey boo boo, no one would say you are an apologist. You’re just a purveyor of hypothetical nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/403 "2003-08-01T03:28:38Z")

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Fair enough. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. No big deal.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/404 "2003-08-01T05:22:27Z")

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DAMN IT.

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**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/405 "2003-08-06T18:58:46Z")

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Just for archival completeness, I’m posting two links. First, a link to the other post-banning thread,

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=201393](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=201393)

I’m also posting a link to **Collounsbury’s** live journal for those who come after and may be interested in the next chapter of MENA-boy’s continuing saga.

> **[Collounsbury - Random Rant on MENA & Other Items](https://collounsbury.livejournal.com/)**
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> Society, Economics, Politics & Other Matters in the Middle East and North Africa

_Friends, Dopers, countrymen, lend me your ears!  
I come to bury Collounsbury, not to praise him.  
The evil that men do lives after them,  
The good is oft interred with their bones;  
So let it be with Collounsbury._

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/406 "2003-08-06T19:35:26Z")

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Thanks for that, **Truth Seeker**. I will miss his unique take on things, and I share **Eva Luna** ’s opinion that a truthful but foul-mouthed poster is more valuable than one who decieves and misrepresents and refuses to address issues in a responsible way.

I am normally a pretty chilled-out person but some of the hateful anti-Arab sentiment, based in shameless ignorance and prejudice, that has surfaced since Sept 11 has made me pretty angry as well. I appreciate that someone more knowledgable and more well-prepared than I has been able to take up the task of trying to dispel it, and I can fully understand his ire. But I agree, maybe this board is not the best place to vent it, and I believe that we are all poorer for it.

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**Author:** ![celestina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@celestina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/celestina)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/407 "2003-08-06T21:56:11Z")

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☹

Oh dear. Not again. Well, this is most unfortunate, but **Sugarlump** had his chance. I’ll miss the perspective and the intellectual integrity–however controversially he presented it–he brought to the board. Now poor **Tamerlane** among others will have to pick up the slack here [giggle], and I imagine he and the others certainly don’t appreciate the extra work that **Sugarlump** has left for them to do. [sigh] C’est la vie. I do wish **Sugarlump** well with his LiveJournal. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collounsbury-6-3-2000-to-11-28-2002/140027/408 "2003-08-06T22:05:05Z")

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Well, I closed the other Colounsbury Pit thread yesterday. I see no reason to leave this one open now.

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