# Color Blind Society="Pretend we're all White" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 30, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696 "2003-08-30T22:56:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/41 "2003-08-31T21:30:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Susanann \* > Again, color of skin is totally irrelevent as to whether someone likes you or not. You’re presenting your opinion as if it were a fact. On what authority are you basing this outrageous claims? How can you say this when there are racial-based hate crimes, prejudices toward people of different color? There may not be slavery in the US anymore, but to jump to conclusion that skin color doesn’t play any parts in US society today is unbelivably naive. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/42 "2003-08-31T21:45:03Z")
by Susanann: > [@](#): > > As far as the other poster saying that not all white people are conservative, you just again prove my point. The liberal white lefties who want gun control and other liberal programs have no problems(no racism) with liberal democrat blacks who want same, in fact, people like Teddy Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Diane Fienstien, Mondale, Clinton, depend on them, and welcome them with open arms. This “welcome them with open arms” bit is making me laugh. I’ll grant that at, say, a gun control rally, whites and blacks who share the same politics will stand shoulder to shoulder, as comrades and all that. But it’s what happens _outside_ the rally that is the most significant. If the comraderie that Mr. White and Mr. Black share inside a convention hall suddenly evaporates in the office, or at the department store, or a resturant, then something tells me something more than politics is in the mix. If Mr. White and Mr. Black get along fine on a gun-control message board, but things suddenly become very awkward between them when they meet in real life, that’s suggests that race plays a major role in how we interact with each other. > [@](#): > > Nobody is seeing that the ultra liberal white democrats have a strong and deep alliance with the black 90% liberal democrats, they share the same goals, they want the same type of society, the same kinds of laws, the same levels of taxes, the same things outlawed… You’re implying that liberal whites are not racist, but that’s wrong. You can still support welfare, but think whites are “better” than blacks. You can still be anti-death penalty and think that any group of 3 or more black kids is automatically a crack hustling street gang. And what about Asians and Latinos? Do you believe they are immune to racism? It’s not always just about whites and blacks. > [@](#): > > … and they just cant seem to understand why conservatives dont want any liberals of any kind next door to them. I don’t understand that, either. That kind of thinking is bigotted regardless of if it has anything to do with race. > [@](#): > > The efforts of americans today are not in stopping some people/races from drinking out of the same water fountain, the efforts are to try to get clean water for everyone in the United States. That’s what the television would have you believe. I had the opportunity last year to study the issue of [environmental justice](http://www.ejnet.org/ej/). Enlightening experience. > [@](#): > > Whites dont try to stop black people from getting guns, they now try to get them to join the NRA and help keep the right to bear arms for everyone, we dont try to stop black people from getting into schools, we want to have better schools that cost less and teach american values, we dont want to stop blacks from getting jobs, we want to try to keep the factory in america instead of moving to china, we dont try to keep blacks off of our sports teams, we want the best players we can get, we dont want blacks to be unemployed and on welfare, we want them to have good high paying jobs to share the taxes so ours can be lowered, we dont want minorities in prison, it now costs over $20,000 a year to keep someone in prison… Here’s a rhetorical question for all of these assertions: cite? > [@](#): > > …we are not interested in keeping blacks out of the military, _ **we are more interested in not letting our own sons die in a senseless war** _, etc. etc. Ah yes, because it is a much better thing for “their” sons and daughters to be killed in a senseless war than for “our” kids. Sentiments such as these make me so glad to be living in a color blind society.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/43 "2003-08-31T22:59:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ryan\_Liam \* > \*\*I just don’t like the way the American culture has made other nations emulate its race relations policy. \*\* Interesting comment. Please elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/44 "2003-09-01T02:48:52Z")
What happens with the other 50% of Americans that didnt vote in the last elections ? High abstention means that almost half of america cant be “defined” as left pinkos or right ragers ! ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/45 "2003-09-01T03:10:00Z")
Off topic, but a few days ago I posted a response, I think it would have been the third or fourth post. But I look today, and, for some reason my post never made it. This is frustrating. Anyway, I guess I’ll look over other peoples responses and see if anybody else made the same points I tried to make, and if not, then repost my message. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/46 "2003-09-01T03:19:29Z")
[BBC presents something similar…](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3171603.stm) - Joel… I hate it when that happens too… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Computer\_Guru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Computer\_Guru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Computer_Guru)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696/47 "2003-09-01T03:26:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by errata \* > \*\*Re: Color Blind Society=“Pretend we’re all White” \*\* Wouldn’t it be “Pretend we’re all Black” because the absence of all color is black? At least I think it is. Just a little humour. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/color-blind-society-pretend-were-all-white/198696.md?page=2)