# Colorado Rockies baseball - how bad will it get?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [June 2, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090 "2025-06-02T00:07:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/21 "2025-06-05T00:50:42Z")

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With the Rockies recent win over the Marlins, they moved from 30th to 29th place in overall historical winning percentage among active franchises. The worst is now the Marlins.

The Rockies are 2333-2749 (.4591)  
The Marlins are 2326-2746 (.4586)

Bonus: The Marlins have the highest postseason win percentage of all of the Major League Teams (40-24, .6000)

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**Author:** ![justdoit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@justdoit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justdoit)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/22 "2025-06-05T12:05:22Z")

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Wow hard to understand the Marlins doing the worst in season and best in postseason. How can that be explained? Maybe their total postseason games are low since they are fairly new to MLB and don’t make playoffs often. It’s like on a team roster, the player with the highest batting average is usually someone who doesn’t play much and has less than 100 at bats for the season. Doing well in limited oppurtunities can skew the stats in your favor.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/23 "2025-06-05T13:02:06Z")

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> [@justdoit](#):
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> Wow hard to understand the Marlins doing the worst in season and best in postseason. How can that be explained? Maybe their total postseason games are low since they are fairly new to MLB and don’t make playoffs often.

They’ve only ever made the playoffs thrice.

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/24 "2025-06-05T13:48:28Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> They’ve only ever made the playoffs thrice.

They made the playoffs in 1997, 2003, 2020, 2023. Even if you discount 2020 short season, it’s still 3 times. They won the World series in 1997 going 3-0, 4-2, 4-3 in the post season. Won the series again in 2003 going 3-1, 4-3, 4-2. They were 2-0, 0-3 in 2020 and 0-2 in 2023. Their total post season record is 24-16. That is .600 as hajario said, but his win and loss totals are wrong.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/25 "2025-06-05T15:10:11Z")

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> [@justdoit](#):
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> Wow hard to understand the Marlins doing the worst in season and best in postseason. How can that be explained?

The 1997 and 2003 teams were legitimately really good teams and ran the table in the playoffs.

The 1997-1998 thing really says it all about the Marlins. They won 92 games in 1997 and won the World Series. In 1998 they dumped every good player they had to hoard money and went 54-108. So you had a really good team and a terrible one, and overall the record in the regular season was 146-178, which is bad. But the BAD team didn’t play any playoff games.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/26 "2025-06-05T15:29:24Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The 1997 and 2003 teams were legitimately really good teams and ran the table in the playoffs.

My recollection is that, in both of those seasons, they loaded up on free agents and trade-deadline acquisitions to make playoff runs, and then shed a lot of them the following seasons (egregiously so in 1998, as you note). They had been a .500, non-playoff team for several years prior to 2003, and returned to that level after 2003.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/27 "2025-06-05T15:58:02Z")

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Just for grins, I looked up the W-L postseason record of all MLB teams, and found it here, at [StatMuse](https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask?q=most+mlb+team+playoff+wins+all-time). Indeed, the Marlins record of 24-16 (40 games) represents the fewest playoff games of any franchise. The next fewest is the D-Backs with 57, and then the White Sox, with 62.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/28 "2025-06-05T16:43:29Z")

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Maybe I am missing something, but that list only has 25 teams.

The Rockies are 10 - 14 in playoff games. Their best year was 2007, when they went to the WS, but lost to Boston.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/29 "2025-06-05T17:23:37Z")

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> [@zimaane](#):
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> Maybe I am missing something, but that list only has 25 teams.

Oops, so it does. My bad.

I’ll keep looking for a list that doesn’t require a paid subscription to unlock.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/30 "2025-06-05T17:31:21Z")

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> **[List of all-time Major League Baseball win–loss records](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_all-time_Major_League_Baseball_win%E2%80%93loss_records)**
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> Major League Baseball (MLB) is a professional baseball organization, which consists of a total of 30 teams—15 teams in the National League (NL) and 15 in the American League (AL). The NL and AL were formed in 1876 and 1901, respectively. Beginning in 1903, the two leagues cooperated but remained legally separate entities until 2000 when they merged into a single organization led by the Commissioner of Baseball. This list documents all 30 active MLB teams ranked by win–loss percentage as of The...

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/31 "2025-06-05T17:36:02Z")

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Thanks, @hajario!

I would not have guessed that the Dodgers have an all-time playoff losing record.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/32 "2025-06-05T17:38:55Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I would not have guessed that the Dodgers have an all-time playoff losing record.

I suspect that a good chunk of that is that the Dodgers have been pretty consistently a playoff team for the past 20 years, but have only won two World Series during that span – in other words, a lot of playoff games and series, the majority of which ultimately ended in losses.

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**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/33 "2025-06-05T18:16:06Z")

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Their 1-8 World Series record in Brooklyn probably doesn’t help.

That’s series record, not games.

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**Author:** ![justdoit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@justdoit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justdoit)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/34 "2025-06-06T00:11:55Z")

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hajario thanks for all time win-loss records. I’m surprised to see Chicago cubs #6 and Chicago white sox #13. I thought the cubs were lovable losers and the white sox not-so-lovable losers, or just plain losers (sorry white sox fans).

I would have expected Baltimore and KC higher than they are. They usually seem to have decent or good teams, just not recent years.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/35 "2025-06-06T00:35:21Z")

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> [@justdoit](#):
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> I would have expected Baltimore and KC higher than they are.

Royals won the World Series in 1985. The next time they were in the playoffs was 2014. There were a lot of lean years in that stretch, including 4 100-loss seasons and another 8 seasons where they lost 90+ games.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/36 "2025-06-06T19:59:59Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> My recollection is that, in both of those seasons, they loaded up on free agents and trade-deadline acquisitions to make playoff runs, and then shed a lot of them the following seasons (egregiously so in 1998, as you note). They had been a .500, non-playoff team for several years prior to 2003, and returned to that level after 2003.

They put up winning records for a few years after 2003 and even tried bringing in some high profile talent like Carlos Delgado, but it didn’t work out.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/37 "2025-06-07T03:05:36Z")

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The Rockies are playing a tight game with the Mets. They deserve to lose just for wearing those ugly uniforms.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/38 "2025-06-07T13:30:31Z")

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And they lost on a two run double by Lindor in the top of the 9th.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/39 "2025-06-07T15:21:56Z")

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At least it was close.

Now on pace for 31-131.

They finally sent Michael Toglia down; Toglia was the regular first baseman but has been awful. Of course, his replacement is Keston Hiura, who is also awful.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorado-rockies-baseball-how-bad-will-it-get/1019090/40 "2025-06-27T17:30:15Z")

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They’ve done a little better in June, and are now on pace to win 36 games.

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