# Colorless Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729 "2009-12-02T18:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/341 "2009-12-09T20:47:11Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Back to the game (and to avoid post padding), I’ll place a tentative vote on the best case so far today: > > **Vote Pedescribe** > > For the comment re: **Tom** ’s role, the comment re: scum have no extra info from kills, the comment re “scum buddies”, the reasoning behind the 2 votes, and because this is Day 1 and the other cases seem somewhat less consistent… \ > [@pedescribe](#): > > > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > > > Back to the game (and to avoid post padding), I’ll place a tentative vote on the best case so far today: > > > > **Vote Pedescribe** > > Give a reason or take it off. Your laziness will hurt the town otherwise. WHAT?!?! You accuse **peeker** of deliberately misquoting you, then in the same post commit the same??? I mean I don’t agree with **Guiri’s** reasons, but you can’t just leave them out of a quote, and then accuse the poster of laziness. In other news, I still think **Cookies** is pretty scummy, and I don’t think anyone suggested that I not be scrutinized. :dubious: Where did that notion enter your head? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/342 "2009-12-09T20:47:22Z")
uh, **ped** you are making my case for me. i totally attributed the first part of the quote to me. the ridiculous was you. which is why i find it odd that 4 posts later you admit that scum would in fact have information which seems to be at odds with “that’s ridiculous” statement. yes i was totaly saying that by eliminating certain information that in and of itself is information. you were the one that said that that conclusion would be “ridiculous”. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/343 "2009-12-09T20:48:34Z")
NETA: “Your” in that last sentence was aimed at Cookies. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/344 "2009-12-09T20:50:22Z")
**peeker** didn’t ask a question, he said he was going to lynch anyone who brought up Millers. And then he didn’t even do that, so no baiting. Although if **Freudian** turns out to be Scum, I think **peeker** should be examined more closely. It could be that he was actually trying to bait, only got the wrong fish. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/345 "2009-12-09T20:55:50Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Give a reason or take it off. Your laziness will hurt the town otherwise. He gave a LOT of reasons. You’re the lazy one–you’re making up reasons to make other people look scummy. Which is what scum has to do. Gee, I wonder what that says about YOU. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/346 "2009-12-09T20:57:17Z")
I’m fine with where my vote is for the moment. To **Skeez** : No one explicitly said that you shouldn’t be scrutinized, but no one else is publicly scrutinizing you either, hence my suggestion to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/347 "2009-12-09T20:58:15Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > \ > > WHAT?!?! You accuse **peeker** of deliberately misquoting you, then in the same post commit the same??? I mean I don’t agree with **Guiri’s** reasons, but you can’t just leave them out of a quote, and then accuse the poster of laziness. > > In other news, I still think **Cookies** is pretty scummy, and I don’t think anyone suggested that I not be scrutinized. :dubious: Where did that notion enter your head? :smack: Ah. I typically put the reasons for voting before the vote, rather than after. I rescind that. > [@peekercpa](#): > > uh, **ped** you are making my case for me. i totally attributed the first part of the quote to me. the ridiculous was you. which is why i find it odd that 4 posts later you admit that scum would in fact have information which seems to be at odds with “that’s ridiculous” statement. No, you from my perspective is peeker. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/348 "2009-12-09T20:58:30Z")
**Vote Count** with about 1 day, 5 hours and 2 minutes to go 12 Votes required to start Countdown. (peak vote in Parenthesis) **5 Votes** \ ***Pedescribe** (6 #330) ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (86), Tom Scud (282 334), Freudian Slip (288), peekercpa (308), Mental Guy (318), GuiriEnEspaña **2 Votes** **Freduian Slit** (2 #298) Zeriel (230), Drain Bead (298) **peekercpa** (2 #326) pedescribe (307), DiggitCamara (326) **1 Vote** **amrussell** (2 #218) Pedescribe (208 235), Rin Twisted (218), ToeJam (272 320) **Rin Twisted** (1 #290) storyteller0910 (290) **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (1 #315) Red Skeezix (315) **Mahaloth** (1 #135) peekercpa (135 308) Tom Scud (334) \ ***Lynch Leader** **Not Voting** : Mahaloth, Nanook, USCDiver, Ichini Sanshigo, MHaye, amrussel, ToeJam ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/349 "2009-12-09T20:59:19Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > He gave a LOT of reasons. You’re the lazy one–you’re making up reasons to make other people look scummy. Which is what scum has to do. Gee, I wonder what that says about YOU. :dubious: Make up? I’ve given my reasons, and they actually happened. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/350 "2009-12-09T20:59:27Z")
**Vote Count** with about 1 day, 5 hours to go 12 Votes required to start Countdown. (peak vote in Parenthesis) **5 Votes** \ ***Pedescribe** (6 #330) ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (86), Tom Scud (282 334), Freudian Slip (288), peekercpa (308), Mental Guy (318), Guiri (330) **2 Votes** **Freudian Slit** (2 #298) Zeriel (230), Drain Bead (298) **peekercpa** (2 #326) pedescribe (307), DiggitCamara (326) **1 Vote** **amrussell** (2 #218) Pedescribe (208 235), Rin Twisted (218), ToeJam (272 320) **Rin Twisted** (1 #290) storyteller0910 (290) **Mahaloth** (1 #135) peekercpa (135 308), Tom Scud (334) **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (1 #315) Red Skeezix (315) \ ***Lynch Leader** **Not Voting** : Mahaloth, Nanook, USCDiver, Ichini Sanshigo, MHaye, amrussel, ToeJam [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/351 "2009-12-09T21:00:49Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > **peeker** didn’t ask a question, he said he was going to lynch anyone who brought up Millers. And then he didn’t even do that, so no baiting. That is a minuscule nitpick. He attacked her, for a ridiculous reason, which was the point. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/352 "2009-12-09T21:02:42Z")
Well dang, Ed. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/353 "2009-12-09T21:10:40Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So I’m thinking, who do we have who’s gone dead silent after drawing a bit of early heat for maybe making the game seem more complicated than it is? I know he’s posted a “sorry guys I’m busy, will post later” post; but I thought **peeker** ’s initial query of **Mahaloth** was solid - the guy’s modded a couple games, he ought to know what a “colorless” roleblocker can or can’t do - and his complete silence since his reply to **peeker’s** vote worries me. > > **unvote pedescribe** > **vote Mahaloth** I agree that the behavior is suspicious. Though, Mahaloth responded to peeker, but Rin Twisted appears to be performing the same maneuver (nothing from her since story’s vote), how did you decide between the two? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/354 "2009-12-09T21:11:40Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > That is a minuscule nitpick. He attacked her, for a ridiculous reason, which was the point. Here’s the exchange: > [@peekercpa](#): > > can we please kill the fuckers that want to talk about anything exotic. read the freaking lack of color. this is going to be straightforward. so anyone who wants to talk about bs is just obfuscating. lynch them immediately. sersiously if someone goes down the miller discussion route they swing just on principle. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Yeah, I agree with killing the miller. I mean if someone gets IDed as a scum and is all, “Well, I’m not really” and then we end up lynching someone else, we’re very likely to mislynch a townie. I’d rather get the miller out of the way because at least we’re not killing someone helpful (i.e., a doctor or RB or whatnot). > [@peekercpa](#): > > there is no miller in this game unless the mods are lying. why the fuck would we talk about that which there is no possibility is my point. i mean it might be fruitful to discuss the living conditions in darfur but that really doesn’t impact the current game goal. kill the scum and sk. anyone who wants to talk about something else is just filling space. That’s not an attack. A bit rude, maybe, but come on. Now, [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11856795&postcount=135) is an attack. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/355 "2009-12-09T21:14:09Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > I agree that the behavior is suspicious. Though, Mahaloth responded to peeker, but Rin Twisted appears to be performing the same maneuver (nothing from her since story’s vote), how did you decide between the two? I like the peeker case on Maha better, mainly. There’s an element of “lynch the loud” to **story’s** case, which I’d like to avoid on turn one if possible. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/356 "2009-12-09T21:22:57Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Well dang, Ed. hehe, sorry ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/357 "2009-12-09T21:42:24Z")
[color=green\*\*To the mods (both of you). Who is the “Freudian Slip” that is voting for Pedescribe?\*\*[/color]. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/358 "2009-12-09T21:51:27Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I like the peeker case on Maha better, mainly. There’s an element of “lynch the loud” to **story’s** case, which I’d like to avoid on turn one if possible. What she really that loud though? She pretty much stated her points, and since then has gotten no real heat nor made any other comments. Currently, I’m interested in hearing her answer to Storyteller’s remarks- how you respond, **Rin**? To encourage a response, I shall add my vote to where I am focused. So Vote \*\*Rin Twisted \*\* ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/359 "2009-12-09T21:54:14Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I like the peeker case on Maha better, mainly. There’s an element of “lynch the loud” to **story’s** case, which I’d like to avoid on turn one if possible. Also, NETA- I feel that the peeker case seems to be a bit of a “lynch the loud” in itself. Pretty much what I’m seeing is that \*\*Peeker \*\*seems to want to agitate people, and people don’t like being agitated. I agree with the masses on that- I find Peeks to be abrasive, but that’s not a BAD thing per se- and at least the man talks a lot. So right now I’m looking at the others who are a little bit quieter in the meantime, as there are plenty of people on the \*\*PeeksWagon \*\*as it were. I’d like to hear from the piccolos and triangles instead of just the giant bassoon that is **Peeks**. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/360 "2009-12-09T21:58:56Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Make up? I’ve given my reasons, and they actually happened. You said that **Guiri** had no real reasons for voting for you. But he/she did: > [@](#): > > For the comment re: Tom’s role, the comment re: scum have no extra info from kills, the comment re “scum buddies”, the reasoning behind the 2 votes, and because this is Day 1 and the other cases seem somewhat less consistent… You said that Guiri needed to give a reason or take it off. Guiri gave good, solid reasons for voting for you. Stop mischaracterizing what other people are saying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729.md?page=19)