# Colorless Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729 "2009-12-02T18:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/701 "2009-12-19T22:51:33Z")
with a bit over 3 hours until Day 3 dawns. Please think about your opinion on when Day 3 should end. I’m leaning towards this Wednesday, the 23rd, but I’m open to something like a week from Tuesday on the 29th because of the holiday ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/702 "2009-12-20T00:37:55Z")
At this point in the game, I think Wednesday is better than a week, especially since I don’t see the latter half of that week adding anything major to whatever tomorrow’s discussion will be. Maybe split the difference and do Thursday in the AM? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/703 "2009-12-20T01:05:09Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > At this point in the game, I think Wednesday is better than a week, especially since I don’t see the latter half of that week adding anything major to whatever tomorrow’s discussion will be. > > Maybe split the difference and do Thursday in the AM? I’ve got family stuff going on Christmas eve, so ending the Day at anypoint then might not work. Perhaps that is the best option, ending Day on Wednesday and allowing Night go go over Christmas and perhaps starting Day 4 on the 26th. So, basically just taking 24 hours off of the Day and adding it to the Night. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/704 "2009-12-20T02:05:55Z")
\*\*Night is over Day 3 has begun\*\* There is an option. Please vote in Purple. Option 1: Day will end on Wednesday, December 23rd at 8PM CST Option 2: Day will end on Tuesday, December 29th at 8PM CST \*\* Zeriel, A Vanilla Town\*\* is dead. 1. Mahaloth 2. Nanook of the North Shore 3. Tom Scud 4. Drain Bead 5. Freudian Slit 6. ToeJam 7. USCDiver 8. peekercpa 9. storyteller0910 10. Alka Seltzer 11. Red Skeezix 12. MHaye 13. Meeko 14. GuiriEnEspaña 15. Mental Guy 16. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies **pedescribe, Serial Killer (Lynched Day 1)** **amrussell, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 1) DiggitCamara, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 2) Zeriel, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 2)** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/705 "2009-12-20T02:08:39Z")
Option 1: Day will end on Wednesday, December 23rd at 8PM CST ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/706 "2009-12-20T02:10:51Z")
Travelling for the holidays **vote: Option 2 (29th)** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/707 "2009-12-20T02:11:43Z")
Best possible result short of a no-kill, I think. **vote Freudian Slit** Nothing has happened to change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/708 "2009-12-20T02:17:52Z")
Freudian was my #2 for most of the day yesterday, but considering Meeko’s vote and his refusal to respond to my questioning him of it. Add to that his hypocritical treatment of MHaye’s vote and that where my suspicion lies heaviest. **vote: Meeko** ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/709 "2009-12-20T02:19:53Z")
NETA: A clarification: I don’t really care that Meeko voted for me yesterday, it was the fact that he voted for me for disagreement on a point of strategy, and then refused to explain how that makes me scummy. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/710 "2009-12-20T02:22:11Z")
Option 1: Day will end on Wednesday, December 23rd at 8PM CST ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/711 "2009-12-20T03:14:05Z")
Just a quick check in to see that Zeriel is our only casualty, which is good (except for Zeriel ☹ ) I’m curious if peeker took a shot or not. We are in the middle of helping to clean out a house that we’re about to start renting… about 6 hours away from the house we currently reside in, so I’ll probably be scarce until at least Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/712 "2009-12-20T03:16:25Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > but considering Meeko’s vote\*\* and his refusal to respond to my questioning him of it.\*\* > > Bolding is mine. > > Bleached By Snipping. > [@Meeko](#): > > The difference is motive of the player being voted on. That is, I suspect you more than I suspect Diggit, and I frankly think that I suspect you more than Mhaye suspects Diggit. > > My point is simply that I think Peeker is 100% correct with his play on counterclaiming pedescribe’s claim. We can both entertain hypotheticals on what Peeker should have done. However, given the result, I don’t think any other course of action could have been more pro town. > > \<\\> > > You remain anti-town, and I believe that, that warrants a vote. Based on 531 It would appear to me that your explanation will be more of the same, telling me that Peeker was wrong. \*\*I have gone down this road one too many times in my Mafia games. I know when I am being baited. \*\* Despite your blatant smudge here, Two OMGUS votes do not make it right. I am not sure what else you want from me. I explained my vote, and bent over backwards to ask for yours.\*\* None was given. \*\* _Given your speed on voting me_, it is very apparent where you are with me. I will not ask you to unvote me, because it would appear you would not entertain such an idea. * * * * * * * * * **Option 1: Day Ends on the 23rd.** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/713 "2009-12-20T03:23:15Z")
Option 1. Day ending on 23rd. Anyway, glad to see only one died. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/714 "2009-12-20T03:40:42Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I am not sure what else you want from me. I explained my vote, and bent over backwards to ask for yours.\*\* None was given. \*\* (snipped) Here’s what I’m looking for: Some sort of analysis, thought process or otherwise that details how me disagreeing with peeker makes me scum. I’m not trying to bait you at all. You voted me yesterday, on what I consider to be spurious reasons. I want you to clearly and unequivocally justify your vote. That means explaining the implications of my actions that makes them scummy. You said your reason for voting me was that you 100% agree with peeker and I don’t, and I won’t change my mind, and this is anti-town. Why do you consider this anti-town? Saying something is anti-town, does not make it so. You have to justify why it is anti-town. If you cannot do that, then it means to me that you were looking for someone to vote who wouldn’t make you look too scummy. And the only people who vote that way in my book are scum. Additional Note: Do not assume that I would not unvote you, and that is a reason not to put up a defense. If you can explain to me why you voted yesterday that makes sense from my town perspective, then in all probability I will unvote you, since you will seem that much less scummy to me. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/715 "2009-12-20T05:29:36Z")
Forgot to add that I don’t have a preference on when the Day ends. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/716 "2009-12-20T07:35:00Z")
Option 1: Day will end on Wednesday, December 23rd at 8PM CST **vote ToeJam** as an encouragement to start actually playing the game again. I’m again conflicted on the **Freudian** wagon, but I don’t see anything better. I’m not convinced **Meeko** is acting scummy, but I don’t think **Red** is baiting him. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/717 "2009-12-20T08:17:59Z")
**Vote Count** with either about 3 days, 17 hours, and 48 minutes to go or 9 days 17 hours and 48 minutes to go. With 16 players, it takes 10 players voting for one person to start a countdown (peak vote in parentheses) **1 Vote** \ ***Freudian Slit** (1 #707) Drain Bead (707) **Meeko** (1 #708) Red Skeezix (708) **ToeJam** (1 #716) Tom Scud (716) **0 Votes** **Mahaloth** **Nanook of the North Shore** **Tom Scud** **Drain Bead** **USCDiver** **peekercpa** **storyteller0910** **Alka Seltzer** **Red Skeezix** **MHaye** **GuiriEnEspaña** **Mental Guy** **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** _Lynch Leader \*\* Not voting:_\* Mahaloth, Nanook of the North Shore, Freudian Slit, ToeJam, USCDiver, peekercpa, storyteller0910, Alka Seltzer, MHaye, Meeko, GuiriEnEspaña, Mental Guy, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies End of Day votes: **5 Votes** \*\*Option 1: Day will end on Wednesday, December 23rd at 8PM CST \*\* Drain Bead USCDiver Meeko Mahaloth Tom Scud **1 Vote** **Option 2: Day will end on Tuesday, December 29th at 8PM CST** Red Skeezix ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/718 "2009-12-20T10:15:32Z")
**Option 2 : Day ends on Tuesday 29th.** I don’t have a lot of time until Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/719 "2009-12-20T14:04:15Z")
\*\* wednesday \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/720 "2009-12-20T14:29:46Z")
Option 2: Tuesday29th December I think Wednesday is too close for a day end, we already have problems with low activity players. Nanook didn’t even place a vote yesterDay. **@Peeker** - I assume Zeriel was the scum kill? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729.md?page=37)