# Colorless Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 2, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729 "2009-12-02T18:21:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 42

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/821 "2009-12-25T23:06:57Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
>
> when is a door not a door?
> 
> when it is a\_ jar.
> 
> think townies, think.

When is a Vig not a Vig?

When it has more hot air than a balloon.

think townies, think.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/822 "2009-12-26T16:50:30Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
>
> well that is cetainly not the intent. i just know that based on the structure of this game there exists facts certain folks will know and others will not.
> 
> the statement was intended for those among us who may very well be aware of this.

It’s an open setup. The only facts that certain folks will know and others will not involves who is Scum and who is not, and those facts exist in any game.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/823 "2009-12-26T16:58:32Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
>
> I will be driving out to the Airport to pick up other family members and will be with them at their house over the weekend. [Local family members, but they are flying back from Australia on the 25th / 26th.]
> 
> I will have my Itouch with me, so I can make minimal comments on those days.

\*\*As a Reminder. \*\*

But, At least I get to use my GPS I Got this year. 😃

I will be able to look in on the game and comment if needed. It will again be from my Ipod which, I still can’t figure out why it has periods after my words.

I should be back to my regular computer late Sunday.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/824 "2009-12-26T23:29:47Z")

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**Vote Count** with about 3 days 2 hours and 30 minutes to go.

With 16 players, it takes 10 players voting for one person to start a countdown.

(peak vote in parentheses)

**2 Votes**  
\ ***Freudian Slit** (3 #779) Drain Bead (707), MentalGuy (761), ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (779 817)  
**Tom Scud** (2 #751) ToeJam (737), storyteller0910 (751)  
**ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (2 #790) Freudian Slit (733), Meeko (790)

**1 Vote**  
**Meeko** (1 #708) Red Skeezix (708)  
**ToeJam** (1 #716) Tom Scud (716 723 787)  
**Nanook of the North Shore** (1 #721) Mahaloth (721)  
**storyteller0910** (1 #770) GuiriEnEspaña (770)  
**MHaye** (1 #788) peekercpa (788)

**0 Votes**  
**Mahaloth** (1 #728) Tom Scud (728 787)  
**Drain Bead**  
**USCDiver**  
**peekercpa**  
**Alka Seltzer**  
**Red Skeezix**  
**GuiriEnEspaña**  
**Mental Guy**  
_Lynch Leader  
\*\*  
Not voting:_\* Nanook of the North Shore, USCDiver, Alka Seltzer, MHaye, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/825 "2009-12-27T13:27:29Z")

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Merry Christmas everyone. Christmas has been a-transpiring here, I’ll try and get caught up and get my vote down tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/826 "2009-12-28T00:41:15Z")

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/OOG

Anyone else get the “Spies 7” spam?

Why am I the lucky one?

Heh. Then again, maybe I should join it, make them wish they hadn’t invited me.

Then again, again, I see the user is already banned… So go figure.

/OOG

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/827 "2009-12-28T02:39:32Z")

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Yeah, I got it as well, Meeko. I assume everyone in the game got it.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/828 "2009-12-28T02:57:00Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> /OOG
> 
> Anyone else get the “Spies 7” spam?
> 
> Why am I the lucky one?
> 
> Heh. Then again, maybe I should join it, make them wish they hadn’t invited me.
> 
> Then again, again, I see the user is already banned… So go figure.
> 
> /OOG

He runs a good game, though, or so I’ve heard. 'Tsa shame he advertised through PMs.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/829 "2009-12-28T03:14:21Z")

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/OOG

The thing that gets me, is that he was going to have votes in a live chat.

Who would could arrange, and guarantee players could vote then / there?

As a statement of fact, and not to slight this game, at least that conspiracy game would not be during the holidays.

/OOG

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/830 "2009-12-28T03:23:00Z")

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Just checking back in with this game, since I’m back.

[oog] I’ve been spammed by him on this site and another where I play mafia. I went and looked at the boards, and it seemed like a very involved game.[/oog]

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/831 "2009-12-28T06:39:28Z")

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> [@Red\_Skeezix](#):
>
> Just checking back in with this game, since I’m back.
> 
> [oog] I’ve been spammed by him on this site and another where I play mafia. I went and looked at the boards, and it seemed like a very involved game.[/oog]

definitely very involved but well run and much fun from what I’ve heard. It takes more of a commitment than these games, I think

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/832 "2009-12-28T07:19:54Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> /OOG
> 
> The thing that gets me, is that he was going to have votes in a live chat.
> 
> Who would could arrange, and guarantee players could vote then / there?
> 
> As a statement of fact, and not to slight this game, at least that conspiracy game would not be during the holidays.
> 
> /OOG

I got that, too, but didn’t read the post all that carefully once I saw he’d been banned…that’s weird, the live chat thing. Has that ever happened before, in a mafia game? Would seem really hard to do, to have everyone around.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/833 "2009-12-28T12:46:54Z")

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@ **ToeJam** Thanks, I interpreted your initial post differently but your intent is clearer now.  
@ **storyteller0910** I hope you managed to survive the mall experience and can post before the end of the Day : )

> [@Meeko](#):
>
> I can’t be the only one wishing that both these guys would finish and or elaborate on these statements, can I?

@ **Meeko** I’m with you re: **Peeker** ’s request to lynch **MHaye**. I think I’m missing a step between the first vote and the request to the rest of Town to lynch him. **Peeker** ’s initial vote was a gut feeling but after **MHaye** ’s response, he seemed quite convinced that **MHaye** should be our lynch target toDay. I’m not sure what **Peeker** saw in the response that convinced him of **MHaye** ’s scumminess.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/834 "2009-12-28T14:59:18Z")

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{OOG, not playing anyway}  
It’d be interesting for us Dopers to do an in-person Mafiascum game some time.  
{/OOG}

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/835 "2009-12-28T16:23:21Z")

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I don’t think the case against Tom is very strong unless Freudian is scum and he had second thoughts about bussing her. He had plenty of company on the Freudian bandwagon when he switched to Diggit, so wouldn’t have been particularly exposed.

I think Rin (and therefore Meeko) is more likely to be town than scum. Her case on Amrussell was poor, but it seemed more likely to be townie aggression to me. I’ve seen her play in a similar way in a previous game as town.

I notice Cookies has just placed herself in a tie for the vote lead, which would be a strange move for scum to make.

Pretty soon we are going to have to start lynching inactive players, the mod has stated he won’t be taking any more action, but I’d like to them a chance to participate now Christmas is over.

**Vote Freudian Slit**

I’m not really sure what to make of Freudian’s play, but I don’t see it as helping town. Despite posting quite a bit she has given us little real content, and I’m intrigued by the rush of votes away from her to Diggit.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/836 "2009-12-28T16:25:35Z")

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On the idle mafia game he’s modding, story just posted that he’s feeling quite sick, so I wouldn’t expect a lot of posting here from him.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/837 "2009-12-28T16:57:52Z")

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@ **Alka** I may be going through a “dumb” period after all the holiday festivities but isn’t there an inconsistency between this statement (snipped):

> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
>
> I don’t think the case against Tom is very strong unless Freudian is scum and he had second thoughts about bussing her.

And this one (bleached):

> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
>
> Vote Freudian Slit

If you vote **Freudian** and want her to be lynched, surely you think she is scum? And if so, isn’t the case against **Tom** therefore very strong - at least in your mind?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/838 "2009-12-28T18:43:48Z")

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Not to answer for **Alka Seltzer** , but in my mind we need that data point of **Freudian** ’s alignment answered before we talk about cases against people based on what they did regarding her.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/839 "2009-12-28T20:08:50Z")

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Any news on **MHaye**?

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/840 "2009-12-28T20:50:57Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
>
> Any news on **MHaye**?

He’s in hiding.

On a more serious note, I’ve been rereading the other games I’m in right now. Having cleared my head over _there_, I think it’s time to reread _here_ again, and think about voting.

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