# Colorless Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 2, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729 "2009-12-02T18:21:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1401 "2010-01-20T02:14:30Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Says the guy who was planning to bus himself if the game had lasted longer.

Hey T, glad to see you are with us.

This is because the bussing had already started. It was obvious that I was probably going to get lynched that day anyway.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1402 "2010-01-20T06:45:51Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> **@USCDiver** - I think you should have either counter-claimed right away, or ridden it out without drawing so much attention to yourself. By claiming the next day scum were able to take you out anyway, and they got an extra mis-lynch out of it.

Maybe so, but when I left for work that Day, Freudian was still in the lead (it was shortly after her false claim) and so I decided to wait and see what the town response would be (hoping she’d be met with disbelief). By the time I got home and read through what had transpired, I didn’t feel like there was enough time to give the town adequate opportunity to digest the counter-claim that Day. If she had gotten some heat early the next Day I had considered holding off on the counter-claim then too, but she did not.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1403 "2010-01-20T11:06:02Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> I think what you always need to keep in mind is that though scum aren’t collectively stupid, they will not only screw up individually, but collectively they will not always play optimally. You approached your analysis from what you figured would be scum’s best play given what you knew. But remember, scum aren’t you. Sometimes scum will intentionally play sub-optimally to toss a wrench into town’s analysis (IMO, this rarely works to any real benefit), but usually, it’s because they forgot some detail or just plainly screwed up (though, even the sub-optimal plays are still usually to scum’s benefit since they have multiple heads working together).

Yeah, I was aware of the risks but I didn’t have anything better.

Reading the scum thread, doesn’t look like they’d even considered gaming the town blocker. I don’t think they realised how big a risk they were taking. If Peeker had taken out Meeko, they’d have been facing 4 confirmed town, with 2 scum in a unconfirmed pool of 5. (They also couldn’t have know the town blocker had been investigated, if I’d been in the unconfirmed pool I could have claimed to make it 5-4, giving town a certain win).

**@USCDiver** - It’s unfortunate how the timing worked out.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1404 "2010-01-20T11:51:26Z")

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We generally had faith that an unblocked peeker would take out Town, given how his public suspicions had gone.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1405 "2010-01-20T12:45:43Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> Aw, thanks, ToeRoosh. 'Twas a good time. But in fairness, that shit I pulled in that game would _never_ work with the present crowd. We’ve all seen too much.

Maybe if you created a new name? 😃

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1406 "2010-01-22T13:18:11Z")

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Anyone going to put up a new game? Anyone? Anyone? I’d really like to play again soon and see if I can’t earn some redemption for my play in this last one.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1407 "2010-01-22T13:53:22Z")

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I have one in the rudimentary stages, but I’m looking for a co-mod since I’ve never designed or modded one. I had **Mahaloth** there for a while, but having two co-mods with 1-year-old kids is probably not the best idea if we ever want to get this one off the ground.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1408 "2010-01-22T17:33:13Z")

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I’d volunteer but I’m a newbie myself, and I’d actually like to play myself if you do get yours off the ground.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1409 "2010-01-22T18:35:34Z")

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I have two ideas for a game (one of them being Quantum Mafia). I would need help were I to run a game, and it wouldn’t start until April anyway. (I do not not not want to be involved in anything major during Pesach prep time.)

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1410 "2010-01-22T18:38:11Z")

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Yeah, that’s the other problem…everyone wants to PLAY BSG Mafia rather than co-mod it.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1411 "2010-01-22T20:14:03Z")

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I didn’t want to get nailed for Advertising, but I’ve got a game that needs just two more players. Elsewhere. But, I think you guys know where I am talking about.😉  
I updated the thread so you can see that Signups are still being taken.

I need two more for Dirty Rotten Cheater, a beta test idea taken from a game show of the same name.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1412 "2010-01-22T20:41:11Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> I have one in the rudimentary stages, but I’m looking for a co-mod since I’ve never designed or modded one. I had **Mahaloth** there for a while, but having two co-mods with 1-year-old kids is probably not the best idea if we ever want to get this one off the ground.

I’ll co-mod if you want. Let me know.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1413 "2010-01-22T22:03:42Z")

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Also, Chronos has a set-up in the works (and it’s rather clever, as well), although I don’t know how close he is to being ready.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1414 "2010-01-22T22:16:01Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Yeah, that’s the other problem…everyone wants to PLAY BSG Mafia rather than co-mod it.

And those who probably would be up to Co mod it, probably dont know anything about Galactica. [Its on my Queue, along with nearly everything else, Jaws, Mad Max, Aliens, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc.]

I’m not offering, just stating my position there. I would love to have, and need more back ground info on BSG here, before I can offer to mod.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1415 "2010-01-22T23:31:49Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> And those who probably would be up to Co mod it, probably dont know anything about Galactica. [Its on my Queue, along with nearly everything else, Jaws, Mad Max, Aliens, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc.]
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> I’m not offering, just stating my position there. I would love to have, and need more back ground info on BSG here, before I can offer to mod.

I have a Caprica game in the works (early stages, didn’t know anyone else was working BSG themes.) , as well as a mostly stagnant 80s sit-com game. I’m probably closest on my ST:Voyager (though it could also be a Dominion War game, remarkable how easily interchangeable they are). I could whip it together in a week or so, I’m sure, but I’d rather have more time to create some worthy color.

If anyone needs a co-mod, I could do that as well.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1416 "2010-01-22T23:41:46Z")

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**ed** , it might be a good idea for us to combine our two ideas.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1417 "2010-01-22T23:52:56Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> **ed** , it might be a good idea for us to combine our two ideas.

MY hope was to get a Caprica game running before the series started, which obviously didn’t happen.

I’d be more than willing to help on a BSG game. How close to completion is it?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1418 "2010-01-23T00:11:59Z")

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Nowhere near. I’m mainly kicking around role ideas in my head. I can send you what I have, though.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1419 "2010-01-23T00:21:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Also, Chronos has a set-up in the works (and it’s rather clever, as well), although I don’t know how close he is to being ready.

I mostly need to figure out how to set up the Scum boards, etc. I’ll try to get that figured out, and hopefully have a sign-up thread, tomorrow. If it’s not up tomorrow, worst case, it’ll be the weekend after that.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colorless-mafia/519729/1420 "2010-01-23T00:56:59Z")

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It’s actually really easy, believe it or not. Just go to [Proboards.com](http://Proboards.com) and register the name you want for it, and it’ll walk you through the rest.

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