# Colour me Surprised: I did NOT know George Takei was Gay.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 17, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-me-surprised-i-did-not-know-george-takei-was-gay/464046 "2008-09-17T21:33:10Z")\
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> **[BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Star Trek's Takei marries partner](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7616129.stm)**
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> Former Star Trek actor George Takei marries his long-term partner in a Buddhist ceremony in Los Angeles.

I remember having a similar reaction when I found out Sir Iain McClellan was a gay.

[sub]Yes… I said “a gay”… because I’m a huge Little Britain fan and it’s funny so there ok?[/sub]

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I remember he came out a couple of years ago.  
What I think is neat is he is a Gay Japanese American Buddhist Trekkie.

That has to win some kind of prize.

I am happy for both of them and how neat it is that he still has long standing friendships from the job that launched a thousand nerds over 40 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> …  
> What I think is neat is he is a Gay Japanese American Buddhist Trekkie.
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> That has to win some kind of prize.  
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If he turned out to be a Republican I think my head would asplode.

I was quite disappointed when I found out the star of my absolute favourite sitcom was one: Kelsey Grammar.

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> If he turned out to be a Republican I think my head would asplode.
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> I was quite disappointed when I found out the star of my absolute favourite sitcom was one: Kelsey Grammar.

I think you mean David Hyde Pierce. :dubious:

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> I was quite disappointed when I found out the star of my absolute favourite sitcom was one: Kelsey Grammar.

I believe you’re thinking of the guy who played his brother. Wikipedia says that Grammer has been married 3 times, but David Hyde Pierce has a (male-sounding) domestic partner.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I think you mean David Hyde Pierce. :dubious:

I meant Republican. Not Gay. I know DHP is Gay (I was not that surprised to learn this) I was disappointed to find out that KG was Republican.

(I am Hetero, but I have no reason to be ‘Disappointed’ to find out if someone is Gay, except if the person in question is female… Because that makes an already astronomically unattainable woman slightly more unattainable)

Great: Now people who don’t give full attention to threads are going to think I’m homophobic.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-me-surprised-i-did-not-know-george-takei-was-gay/464046/7 "2008-09-17T22:10:13Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> I believe you’re thinking of the guy who played his brother. Wikipedia says that Grammer has been married 3 times, but David Hyde Pierce has a (male-sounding) domestic partner.

Heh, I’m pretty sure “one” in that sentence means “Republican” (which Kelsey Grammar is) rather then "homosexual (which David Hyde Pierce is).

Interestingly John Mahoney, also from Fraiser, is actually the first person that comes to mind when I think “Gay Japanese-American Republican Buddhist Trekkie”.

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Interestingly John Mahoney, also from Fraiser, is actually the first person that comes to mind when I think “Gay Japanese-American Republican Buddhist Trekkie”.

OK, I have got to ask: Why???

The very little I know of John is that he’s not American (Ironically born in Manchester, England??) but he’s certainly not Japanese is he???

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I think you mean David Hyde Pierce. :dubious:

Or possibly John Mahoney.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Or possibly John Mahoney.

Or possibly Moose, who played “Eddie.” Never really saw any girl dogs around him, did we?:dubious:

He’s dead now, o’course.

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> Or possibly Moose, who played “Eddie.” Never really saw any girl dogs around him, did we?:dubious:
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> He’s dead now, o’course.

Why would he need girls? He could lick his own balls. Which would make him an Indepedent, I think.

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> Or possibly Moose, who played “Eddie.” Never really saw any girl dogs around him, did we?:dubious:
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> He’s dead now, o’course.

I hear Eddie was more than one Dog.

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> I hear Eddie was more than one Dog.

I read this as " Eddie was more than one Doug."

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> Why would he need girls? He could lick his own balls. Which would make him an Indepedent, I think.

And where would the world be if Ron Jeremy thought that way?

_He is well known for his large-sized penis, self described as being 9.75 inches in length,[3] and gained some notoriety for being capable of autofellatio (which he first demonstrated on-screen in Inside Seka[8]) but he has since stated in a 2003 interview that all he can do these days is kiss the tip of his penis due to his weight gain._

> **[Ron Jeremy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy)**
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> Ronald Jeremy Hyatt (born March 12, 1953) is an American former pornographic actor and actor.
> Nicknamed "The Hedgehog", Jeremy was ranked by AVN at No. 1 in their "50 Top Porn Stars of All Time" list. Jeremy has also made a number of non-pornographic media appearances, and director Scott J. Gill filmed a documentary about him and his legacy, Porn Star: The Legend of Ron Jeremy, released in 2001.
> Jeremy was accused of sexual assault more than a dozen times between 2017 and 2020, for incident...

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Or possibly John Mahoney.

Or Dan Butler who played Bob ‘Bulldog’ Briscoe.

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> I hear Eddie was more than one Dog.

According to wikipedia cast included:

“Moose” and Moose’s son “Enzo” as Eddie, the Jack Russell Terrier.

> **[Frasier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier)**
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> Frasier (/ˈfreɪʒər/) is an American television sitcom that was broadcast on NBC for 11 seasons from September 16, 1993, to May 13, 2004. The program was created and produced by David Angell, Peter Casey, and David Lee (as Grub Street Productions), in association with Grammnet Productions (1995–2004) and Paramount Television.
> The show was created as the third spin-off of the sitcom Cheers. It continues the story of psychiatrist Frasier Crane (Kelsey Grammer), who returns to his hometown, Seattl...

So perhaps he was bisexual.

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> I remember having a similar reaction when I found out Sir Iain McClellan was a gay.

Did you mean Sir Ian McKellen? Gandalf?

If so, you might want to read up on your Isle of Man history a bit…

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> The very little I know of John is that he’s not American (Ironically born in Manchester, England??) but he’s certainly not Japanese is he???

Sure he is, he’s just in the closet.

(Was actually trying to make a joke, since he comes across as a fairly straight laced guy on Fraiser, so I thought the image of him as a gay buddhist trekkie was funny. Some googling reveals he’s both foreign (British as you say, not so much Japanese) and at least rumored to be gay, so jokes on me. Ah well, next time I’ll pick on Eddie.)

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> What I think is neat is he is a Gay Japanese American Buddhist Trekkie.

Reminds me of my faux-racist friends when I was a teenager, who were always talking about and searching for the elusive gay black Jew. 😃

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George Takei was one of the guests when Comedy Central did their roast of William Shatner. Someone[sup]\*[/sup] said “we all know Bill’s nuts, but George has tasted them.”

- The “someone” in question was Betty White.

Ooh, look, head shrapnel.

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