# Colour of Magic movie

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 31, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802 "2007-07-31T10:36:11Z")
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### Author: ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/1 "2007-07-31T10:36:11Z")

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Last year, a mini-series of Hogfather was released on Sky One TV in the UK. It was very well done, and almost perfectly cast.

They are following it up with a similar production of [Colour of Magic](http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=22949). But this time, the casting seems to me to be not anywhere near as good.

I do not underrstand why Sean Astin would play TwoFlower, for example. And 67 year old David Jason as Rincewind??

Aargh!

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### Author: ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/2 "2007-07-31T22:00:25Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]  
Last year, a mini-series of Hogfather was released on Sky One TV in the UK. It was very well done, and almost perfectly cast.  
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Rhys Ifans must play Rinso..

Why they’re doing TCOM is beyond me, there are much better stand alone books, that would work really well. I can easily see Moving Pictures or ¨Soul Music being done on screen. Lotsa room for good visual gags.

I actually don’t agree with you re: Hogfather. The cast was good, though Susan was a let down. However, I think it was to faithful to the book. A good adaption needs to reinterprete the original work. Just MHO.

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### Author: ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/3 "2007-07-31T22:54:34Z")

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Whereas Christopher Lee as Death is inspired; he practically talk IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS already. 🙂

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### Author: ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/4 "2007-07-31T23:07:06Z")

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Oh goodness. There are so many better books to do.

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### Author: ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/5 "2007-07-31T23:11:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Charlie Tan]  
The cast was good, though Susan was a let down.  
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Wow, really? I thought she was fantastic! Marc Warren’s portrayal of Teatime annoyed me, though.

[QUOTE=RealityChuck]  
Whereas Christopher Lee as Death is inspired  
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Christopher Lee has already played Death in the animated version of _Soul Music_. I liked Ian Richardson’s version in _Hogfather_, I see no reason to change.

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### Author: ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/6 "2007-08-01T08:40:53Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]  
I liked Ian Richardson’s version in _Hogfather_, I see no reason to change.  
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[Um…](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6346637.stm)

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### Author: ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/7 "2007-08-01T08:56:39Z")

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Oh. Okay, that’s a good reason. I had no idea.

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### Author: ![Captain\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Captain\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_C)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/8 "2007-08-01T10:44:47Z")

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As long as they cast Hugh Lorie as Vimes when they do a movie on a city watch book, I will be content. If they don’t, _take to the streets I say! Get the torches!_

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/9 "2007-08-01T13:41:47Z")

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[QUOTE=TPWombat]  
[Um…](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6346637.stm)  
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Bloody hell. Talk about method acting.

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### Author: ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/10 "2007-08-01T14:25:27Z")

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Was the Hogfather miniseries narrated? Do you think TCOM will be? I ask because Pterry loves his footnotes, and I would be sad if they got kicked to the curb in these renditions.

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### Author: ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/11 "2007-08-01T14:27:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Bloody hell. Talk about method acting.

😃😃😃

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### Author: ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/12 "2007-08-01T14:42:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain\_C]  
As long as they cast Hugh Lorie as Vimes when they do a movie on a city watch book, I will be content. If they don’t, _take to the streets I say! Get the torches!_  
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Nonono! I am the first to aquiesce to Hugh Laurie being cast for … anything really. However, since I saw Life on Mars I want Vimes to be played by [Philip Glenister](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0322562/).

As to Colour of Magic - I was always a bit uncertain about Rincewind’s age (is it mentioned anywhere?), but David Jason does not really fit my mental picture.

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### Author: ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/13 "2007-08-01T15:20:18Z")

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[QUOTE=from the link]  
RHI recently set up “Hogfather” for a U.S. debut on Ion Television as part of the RHI Movie Weekend franchise.  
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What the hell is Ion Television and how can I get it?

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### Author: ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2007, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/14 "2007-09-13T08:00:00Z")

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Bumping to ask a question:  
If I hear it said outloud will I understand what Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits has to do with economics? 😕 It’s the only pun in the book I don’t get. At all.

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### Author: ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/15 "2007-09-13T08:24:09Z")

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]  
Bumping to ask a question:  
If I hear it said outloud will I understand what Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits has to do with economics? 😕 It’s the only pun in the book I don’t get. At all.  
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Reflected sound = echo.

Of underground spirits = “gnomic”.

Echo-gnomics.

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### Author: ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2007, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/16 "2007-09-13T08:32:58Z")

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[QUOTE=CaerieD]  
Reflected sound = echo.

Of underground spirits = “gnomic”.

Echo-gnomics.  
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Okay. But I thought the dialogue implied that the phrase was what Rincewind heard the tourist _say_, not that he was trying to translate it into familiar terms. Maybe it’s just that other wordplays in the book were mishearings.

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### Author: ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colour-of-magic-movie/413802/17 "2007-09-13T08:36:53Z")

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]  
Okay. But I thought the dialogue implied that the phrase was what Rincewind heard the tourist _say_, not that he was trying to translate it into familiar terms. Maybe it’s just that other wordplays in the book were mishearings.  
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My interpretation is that it is what he heard TwoFlower say and he was trying to interpret what he’d literally heard him say. So, not knowing the word economics, he does recognize the words “echo” and “gnomic” within the language that they’re speaking, and so translates _that_ into reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits.
