# Come everyone on the SDMB it is time to rape a rich girl - The bitch is asking for it

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 9, 2003, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209 "2003-11-09T08:02:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/21 "2003-11-09T16:51:26Z")

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she knew what she was doing.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/22 "2003-11-09T17:52:07Z")

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Cool! I got pitted! (kinda)

Fuck you, asshole. (I’ll be back)

She wasn’t raped. She videotaped herself having sex after taking illegal drugs and drinking underage, and her parents are freaking out because the tape got out and it’ll make them look bad.

Cry me a fucking river.

If she had been raped, don’t you think that Rick Solomon would be _dead_ by now? People like Paris Hilton don’t get raped and have it go unreported and unsettled.

Break out the world’s tiniest fucking violin.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/23 "2003-11-09T17:58:10Z")

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Can I interrupt this discussion to say that in the “New Posts” view, the thread right after this one is called “Film Cameos”.

_snort_

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/24 "2003-11-09T18:14:38Z")

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I find the “ambush” technique of the OP particularly interesting. There’s a thread about a girl being videotaped having sex, with not even a hint of being impaired in any way at the time.

**Hydrocortisone** finds a link that may indicate otherwise. Does he/she bring that up in the original thread, to those who likely have no idea of the involvement of drugs and/or alcohol? Of course not. It’s much more fun to pit those people, as if they were a bunch a frat guys cheering on the molestation of a passed-out hig school girl at house party.

Fuck you **Hydrocortisone**. You might have a case if there was some hint that maybe she was imparied in the original thread, but there wasn’t and you proved yourself to be a worthless infected cunt-sore out to score points, and not anybody who cares about victims of rape.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/25 "2003-11-09T18:24:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sugaree \*  
> \*\*That is, click on my link. Hands off my clink. \*\*

Funniest typo ever. 😃

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**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/26 "2003-11-09T18:27:36Z")

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Has anyone actually seen the tape? The only cite we have that alleges that may be non-consensual sex is an article by the New York Post stating that it looks like she isn’t conscious.  
No other media outlet has statements to this effect with the exception of stories attributing it to the New York Post.

[This article](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/07/entertainment/main582514.shtml) states that she was aware that the tape was being made. If anyone has seen it does it look like she is incapacitated? Every picture of her I’ve ever seen shows her with a vapid look. Maybe that it was people are seeing in the videotape.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/27 "2003-11-09T18:39:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> **Hydrocortisone finds a link that may indicate otherwise. Does he/she bring that up in the original thread, to those who likely have no idea of the involvement of drugs and/or alcohol? Of course not. It’s much more fun to pit those people, as if they were a bunch a frat guys cheering on the molestation of a passed-out hig school girl at house party.**

What was he/she supposed to do? Just go off in the other thread in Cafe Society?

I don’t agree with the OP, but it’s kind of stupid to tell someone to take the fight to somewhere it’s not allowed.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/28 "2003-11-09T18:39:46Z")

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Is it necessarily wrong if you like getting drunk and high and having sex while both? It might be illegal if the consent comes only when incapacitated, but what if it comes before (sober) during (not sober) and after (sober again)? An interesting legal riddle here.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/29 "2003-11-09T18:45:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
> \*\*What was he/she supposed to do? Just go off in the other thread in Cafe Society?
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> I don’t agree with the OP, but it’s kind of stupid to tell someone to take the fight to somewhere it’s not allowed. \*\*

It’s not against the rules to express disdain and dissenting opinions in Cafe Society. How else would the trekkies survive?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/30 "2003-11-09T18:48:09Z")

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I think **Ike** is lost.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/31 "2003-11-09T18:49:26Z")

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And now I’m lost. Coulda sworn I saw a post by **Ukelele Ike**.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/32 "2003-11-09T18:52:14Z")

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When I was a geeky teenager and thus relegated the role of “friend,” I was made privy to the fact that even the most ordinary young women have at least that one summer when they go out and “do all the sex.” That includes a lot of stuff they won’t be interested in later after the first year of marriage, such as polaroid/videotaped/webcammed exhibitionism. Google up “Amature (any sex act)” and you’ll see that this young lady’s experience is hardly unique.

Currently, the other big scandal is that Prince Charles, an ostesibly straight man, may have at some time had homosexual contact.

C’mon tabloids, give us something us can feel truly superior about not being interested in. This is like winning the Nobel Prize for working a quadradic equation.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/33 "2003-11-09T20:30:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Slithy Tove \*  
> Currently, the other big scandal is that Prince Charles, an ostesibly straight man, may have at some time had homosexual contact.

Anyone wanting to live in Camilla Parker Bowls’ trousers may not be as straight as they would like you believe.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/34 "2003-11-09T20:41:22Z")

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Having seen the open-legged still/photo in the car, I think everything was plucked except my heart strings.

So I’m really not encouraged to view moving images of that _thing_, in fact, I’ve seen more attractive flesh dangling from a Rooster’s chin.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/35 "2003-11-09T21:02:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
> \*\*I’ve seen more attractive flesh dangling from a Rooster’s chin. \*\*

_Makes note to keep **L\_C** away from Janet Reno._

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/36 "2003-11-09T21:04:37Z")

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> Come it is so much fun to make fun of a girl who is so out of it that she doesn’t know what is happening being fucked. Come she is rich so it is funny. Everyone knows if you are rich you deserve to be raped. Fuckin’ skank. And since it is ok to make fun a girl being raped, I guess raping a girl is ok, too? So let’s go rape a rich girl. Come everyone on the SDMB it is time to rape a rich girl.

May I assume your psychotic and insane ramblings are a product of the fact that english is not your native tongue, and not due to your suffocating ignorance? I must say, I am dissappointed in my first pittin. Damn

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/37 "2003-11-09T21:39:00Z")

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From the E! article:

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> According to sources quoted in the New York Post who have seen the footage, Hilton “keeps staring into the camera and trying to show her best side…She knows she is being taped, and [Solomon] keeps trying to get her into sex positions that are better for taping, if you know what I mean.”

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> Hilton had allegedly left threatening messages on the actress’ answering machine warning her away from Solomon and, depending on the source, screamed at Doherty on sight, “Leave Rick alone!”

Quite frankly, given what we know about Doherty, I think she and Paris would make a good couple themselves. Maybe they’d beat each other unconscious and we’d never have to hear from either again!

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/38 "2003-11-09T22:05:27Z")

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The Hilton sisters have been disporting themselves down here for the last week. We’ve had Paris and Nicky at the Melbourne Cup, Paris kissing someone she just met passionately on a balcony, Paris and Nicky do the Gold Coast…

No tidbits about the video though.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/39 "2003-11-09T22:47:39Z")

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If voluntary intoxication prevents Paris Hilton from consenting to sex, is it possible for her to consent to sex? What would her opiate, alcohol, nicotine, cocaine balance have to be exactly? As she and Rick were dating, and Paris Hilton is richer than God, I think it’s safe to assume that she wasn’t raped in any meaningful sense.

Claiming it in cases like this could diminish the impact when people hear about actual rapes of a horribly violent nature – which do happen all the time. These drunken mistake “oops” rapes are just not in the same category as the real crime that does still happen all the time. Withdrawing consent should be done _before_ the sex act has been consumated, or years later.

The issue of selling her likeness in lots of interesting postions without her consent (different consent) is another matter entirely. Rick should not make a cent on this.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-everyone-on-the-sdmb-it-is-time-to-rape-a-rich-girl-the-bitch-is-asking-for-it/212209/40 "2003-11-09T23:13:59Z")

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I absolutely agree that rick should not make a penny by selling the rights to this (is it even Rick who is selling the rights? I thought the tape was stolen ala the pammy video).  
but from what I’ve read, it doesn’t convicne me she was raped, or this was done without her consent.

However, I am open to being proved wrong.

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