# Come join the Memeing Tillions poker club! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** board-card-word-game\ **Created:** [July 12, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091 "2020-07-12T04:48:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/41 "2020-07-23T21:23:13Z")
Spreadsheet is up ([Memeing Tillions Leaderboard - Google Sheets](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15qczia_FCjAIxn9duqJfNKzBH9E6ELnmOk-hJr-efus/edit?usp=sharing)) I’ve decided to go with (√number of players) / (√finishing position) to reduce the advantage for players in tournies with a large field, and to reduce the overall variance between points earned. Previously, there was almost no incentive for someone to finish 4th out of 5, versus 5th out of 5, and just winning a couple tournies would make it prohibitively difficult for the others to catch up. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/42 "2020-07-23T23:33:58Z")
This looks cool! Thank you. 🙏 Intuitively it makes sense to me in terms of the proportion awarded to each finisher. This approach eliminates an element of a normal SNG that I’m personally not terribly fond of: the bubble. (Bubbling after having a chip lead entering the bubble has happened to me so many times, and it SUCKS.) But some players do really enjoy the tension of the bubble, like to use it to bully and steal blinds, etc. If that is true of anyone here, please speak up! We should lock this down before we play next Wednesday, IMO, rather than sort of endlessly fiddling with it. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/43 "2020-07-24T02:41:56Z")
A number cruncher friend gave me this breakdown: For five players: 1 31% 2 22% 3 18% 4 15% 5 14% For nine: 1 21% 2 15% 3 12% 4 11% 5 10% 6 9% 7 8% 8 8% 9 7% ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/44 "2020-07-24T12:58:44Z")
Wait, how do we account for rebuys? ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/45 "2020-07-24T16:31:29Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > A number cruncher friend gave me this breakdown: > > … Hmm, I thought there would be more separation between the players in the lower half, but when you put it in this format I see there’s not really much. I guess this invalidates my theory that it would give short stacked players incentive to hang in there early in the game. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > Wait, how do we account for rebuys? I was thinking of dividing their points by √2 each time they rebuy. So one rebuy would mean they get ~71% of their final points, two rebuys would be 50%, etc. Luckily this doesn’t affect the result of the last game because the rebuy option was broken. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/46 "2020-07-24T23:38:35Z")
That makes sense. > [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](#): > > Hmm, I thought there would be more separation between the players in the lower half, but when you put it in this format I see there’s not really much. I guess this invalidates my theory that it would give short stacked players incentive to hang in there early in the game. Yeah, counterintuitively it almost looks like it incentivizes really going for first place or bust, since it’s only first place that provides a significant advantage over other finishing positions. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/47 "2020-07-29T13:10:37Z")
You all are making this way too complicated. Spreadsheets? I’m just going to play to have something to do on Wednesdays, so you don’t need to figure out my stuff for the spreadsheet if it makes it easier for you. ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/48 "2020-07-29T13:11:05Z")
Thanks for putting this spreadsheet together! I’m looking forward to another game this evening. Hopefully I can make my way to the top 😁 ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/49 "2020-07-29T23:16:11Z")
45 minutes until we “shuffle up and deal”! Still plenty of time for new members to sign up—see the OP for instructions, and make sure you say something here so I know I should approve you. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/50 "2020-07-30T01:54:25Z")
Congrats to SDMBmc (I think that’s @mikecurtis, right?) for his win tonight! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/51 "2020-07-30T01:54:29Z")
no new tournament or anything? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/52 "2020-07-30T01:55:43Z")
yea, thats me woohoo! I knocked out everybody but Manson! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/53 "2020-07-30T01:58:33Z")
And you weren’t even there for most of the first hour! > [@Slash1972](#): > > no new tournament or anything? Sure, I’ll set up an 8-game tourney (“just for fun”). Give me a minute and it should be in the lobby. ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/54 "2020-07-30T01:59:42Z")
Congrats @mikecurtis! Even though you didn’t play last week, you’re at 3rd on the leaderboard now. For me, it’s been 3 straight runner-up finishes so far, but that is enough to make me the leader by a very slim margin. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/55 "2020-07-30T02:02:05Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > yea, thats me > woohoo! > I knocked out everybody but Manson I play a little better when I’m not smashed 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/56 "2020-07-30T02:05:22Z")
When does that happen? 😉 > [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](#): > > For me, it’s been 3 straight runner-up finishes so far, but that is enough to make me the leader by a very slim margin. Nice! I have always said in tournament play, runner-up is the efficiency sweet spot. You lose all your chips just like everyone else but the winner, but you get a decent payout simply for losing them more slowly than everyone else. The winner has to win all the chips to get only part of the prize pool–not very efficient. ETA: We can also see that our system did make a difference in terms of punishing the weakest finishes–I assume if I hadn’t finished dead last this week, I would still be in the lead. ETA2: @manson1972, this one is going to get canceled again if you don’t sign up quick! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/57 "2020-07-30T02:09:10Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > When does that happen LOL, rarely, but I took a nap after work today so my drinking before the game was limited. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/58 "2020-07-30T02:10:30Z")
Manson made it! Thirty minutes of late registration if anyone else wants to join. ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/59 "2020-07-30T02:16:03Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The winner has to win all the chips to get only part of the prize pool–not very efficient. Yep, some players get a payout quite disproportionate from the amount of effort they put in, just by staying out of the big fights. But I guess it could be considered luck, in a sense, to be dealt bad cards and fold, rather than to be dealt good cards against someone else’s great cards. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > We can also see that our system did make a difference in terms of punishing the weakest finishes–I assume if I hadn’t finished dead last this week, I would still be in the lead. Even a fifth-place finish would’ve kept you in the lead, assuming my finishing position remained the same 😏 ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091/60 "2020-08-05T22:40:02Z")
Reminder that the weekly tourney starts in just under 90 minutes (8 p.m. Eastern). And there’s another hour after that for late registration–IIRC last week’s winner joined us like 55 minutes in! Still plenty of time for new members to join up: just follow the instructions in the OP, and mention your PokerStars screen name here so I know to approve you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-join-the-memeing-tillions-poker-club/915091.md?page=4)