# Come Mister Tallyban tally me banana

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**Created:** [December 2, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-mister-tallyban-tally-me-banana/519675 "2009-12-02T05:12:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-mister-tallyban-tally-me-banana/519675/10 "2009-12-02T09:38:48Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Cite for this being a wrong pronunciation, as opposed to just a _different_ one? Obama also pronounces Pakistan differently from most people, although other people in his administration seem to say it the same way. But he’s not saying Pakistan wrong, and I think it’s closer to the way the word is pronounced in Urdu.

Obama pronounces Pakistan as the locals do. Taliban, locally, is pronounced taa-li-baan, with a soft T sound that no American I know seems to be able to differentiate from a hard T sound. It’s a sound that I think doesn’t exist in the English language, or at least I’m unable to find a word that uses it, to be able to explain the difference to my friends.

The closest I can come to an explanation is this:

Say tree. Now say three. See where your tongue is when you say three? It’s not the same place as tree, right? Now say T with your tongue at the the position where you start the word three. That’s a soft T sound. Am I making any sense?

Next time you meet a South Asian friend, ask them to pronounce a native language word that uses a soft T and a hard T, and see if you can make out the difference. Chances are, you can’t.

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