# Come on down, davidmich **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 8, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344 "2015-09-08T16:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/41 "2015-09-09T01:56:35Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > [Already happened](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=479633). That was 2008 and nothing has changed. Your response in the (2nd) Do Re Me thread had me in stitches for hours. The perfect dead pan reply. And note that the fucker never even apologized. Well, whatever. It’s just a message board and we’re all a bunch of anonymous posters anyway. Right? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/42 "2015-09-09T02:05:27Z")
**KarlGauss** ’s old Pit thread of Jinx sounds eerily like this one (and the previous **Davidmich** one). I’ll admit that **DM** ’s threads used to piss me off. It’s called Google. Use it. But since the last Pitting I do think he’s gotten better about the caliber of the questions he’s asking. I haven’t felt that sense of condescension that came across when he took the time to enter a GQ query that clearly could have been answered if he copied and pasted it into Google. Before his reform, you just felt like a nameless cog in the great soul-sucking vastness of the internet. A tool. Stop using me! _sobs_ But, I think he has reformed. To an extent. Now I amuse myself by trying to find the common thread between his questions. Proper verb tenses in French. The fate of a monarchy. Or something. Look I don’t always read them all. The point is, what does it all mean? I’m thinking author, possibly gunpowder fantasy or parallel history. Second choice, grad student. I don’t think grad student covers it though. Unless he’s studying the behavior of self-proclaimed wits on a message board. I sympathize with the pitting, but still welcome **Davidmich** to visit and ask questions. Within reason. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/43 "2015-09-09T02:11:52Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I didn’t get the issue a year ago, and I don’t get it now. **davidm** davidmich and davidm are two different posters. Aside from that, I agree, I think this pitting is weak. davidmich is no Jinx. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/44 "2015-09-09T02:15:28Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Since we now have a mod in the thread, has **davidmich** ever PMed a mod? Has **davidmich** ever reported a post? Not that I am aware. > [@](#): > > If the answer to either or both is “No”, is not that atypical for a poster of his length of stay? Not in the least. There are no doubt hundreds of posters who have been here much longer and have many more posts who have never once done either. > [@](#): > > Does that not strike you as odd? Utterly normal behavior. The vast majority of posters never PM a mod or report a post. Checking my PMs, I have been PM’d by fewer than 50 non-mod posters in the past year. Most of them want to know why someone was banned, or request a name change, or are protesting a note or warning. I’m not sure why you think PM’ing a mod is an indication of making a contribution to the board. Most of them are just made in the posters own self-interest. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/45 "2015-09-09T07:45:53Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > I wonder if I could pass a Gender Turning Test, passing as a girl for a month. I’d probably need to be a bit less confrontational and use more smilies and be in contact with my feelings and shit like that. If the mods will change my name to Runa I’ll give it a shot. What the fuck is a Gender Turning Test? You dumb! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/46 "2015-09-09T13:39:06Z")
> [@naita](#): > > What the fuck is a Gender Turning Test? Idle Thoughts ran one just this April 1st. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/47 "2015-09-09T15:50:48Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > But ‘he’ is continually asking questions and not contributing one jot. Further, ‘he’ only seems to post in GQ, despite threads getting moved to other forums - ‘he’ never starts threads in other forums, apart from one thread started in ATMB (and that was a thread for GQ). I’ve yet to spot one thread where an actual conversation takes place between ‘him’ and another poster. Actually, he has a thread about Shakespeare in Café Society. I was posting in it a few days ago. Very weird experience. You’re right about it not being an actual conversation between him and anyone else. At a casual glance it could look like a discussion, but when you look twice, it really isn’t. He almost never responds to anyone’s point, and when he does, it’s with something that isn’t actually any kind of response - it’s like he picked a term at random from the other person’s post without reading it, plugged the term into a search engine and then posted the first result. Apart from that, he just keeps repeating that he thinks A because we’ll never know but it feels like that’s probably the answer. The rest of the thread was interesting, though, so I don’t have anything against the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/48 "2015-09-09T18:24:06Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > . . . davidmich is no Jinx. While I understand, and agree with, your point. . . that is hardly a resounding endorsement!😃 ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/49 "2015-09-09T18:37:15Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Actually, he has a thread about Shakespeare in Café Society. He posted the question in GQ and it was subsequently moved. But I have no problem with his questions or lack of contribution to other threads. He adds to the board in his own way. I don’t find many of his questions too interesting, but that’s true of most questions. I probably read 5-10% of threads, so if I like 1 in 10 of his posts, he’s pretty much average. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/50 "2015-09-10T01:49:35Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > You’re right about it not being an actual conversation between him and anyone else. At a casual glance it could look like a discussion, but when you look twice, it really isn’t. He almost never responds to anyone’s point, and when he does, it’s with something that isn’t actually any kind of response - it’s like he picked a term at random from the other person’s post without reading it, plugged the term into a search engine and then posted the first result. I find this rather odd, since he responded directly to you, and his comment was relevant to what you said. Perhaps you misunderstood it. He also responded directly to several other people in that thread. It can be missed because he apparently hasn’t figured out how to use the quote function. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/51 "2015-09-11T10:57:41Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I find this rather odd, since he responded directly to you, and his comment was relevant to what you said. Perhaps you misunderstood it. > > He also responded directly to several other people in that thread. It can be missed because he apparently hasn’t figured out how to use the quote function. See, I don’t agree. This is exactly what I mean: at first glance that did look like a response, and it was in fact related to my post. But it didn’t actually respond to what I was saying, or move the discussion on in any way, or support any point that davidmich or anyone else had been making, or refute any point that I or anyone else had been making. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/52 "2015-09-11T15:11:58Z")
> [@Was Shakespeare anti-Semitic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-shakespeare-anti-semitic/729762/35): > > I thought these points were quite useful in getting to grips with the Shylock character. > > Fretful Porpentine > > “So, I’d argue that Shakespeare does not depict Jews as inherently evil or despicable. He doesn’t, however, depict all religions as equally valid – there isn’t ever any real question that Christianity is supposed to be superior.” > > Shakespear’s audience (Christian) would have thought of themselves as superior to Jews. So the play reflects his time. > > eclectic wench > > “Shylock is the only main character in that play who never does anything devious. He, unlike everyone else, is constantly upfront.” > > If Shylock had simply be the stereotypical Jew, it would just have been another “The Jew of Malta” and we wouldn’t be really discussing it today. The fact that he does play the stereotypical Jew out for his “pound of flesh” but not in the stereotypical cartoonish way Jews were often portrayed in his day, gives his character more depth and a human quality. > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > See, I don’t agree. This is exactly what I mean: at first glance that did look like a response, and it was in fact related to my post. But it didn’t actually respond to what I was saying, or move the discussion on in any way, or support any point that davidmich or anyone else had been making, or refute any point that I or anyone else had been making. I think you are bending over backwards to try to find problems with his responses. His response to **Fretful Porpentine** was directly on point. His response to you was as well. You remark on things that were not part of the Jewish stereotype, and **davidmich** agrees that Shylock was not the stereotypical Jew. I really fail to see how his response was in some way not a comment on your post. **davidmich** admittedly has a somewhat silted and somewhat odd way of expressing himself. It appears that English is perhaps not his first language. He doesn’t know how to use the quote function. But the accusation that he doesn’t “really” participate in his own threads is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/53 "2015-09-11T17:06:16Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > But the accusation that he doesn’t “really” participate in his own threads is ridiculous. Since when does truth matter in the Pit? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/54 "2015-09-11T17:15:42Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Since when does truth matter in the Pit? Says the troll. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/55 "2015-09-11T19:18:56Z")
OP pits someone but is not even gonna bother with linking to some of the guy’s threads that illustrate his point? You’re going to make me do a search? How rude. Also exactly the kind of thing a bot would do. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/56 "2015-09-11T20:05:35Z")
These posts read like those guys at school who looked for any reason to pick on the kid who was a little different. Nevermind that he was perfectly harmless or would help you with your homework. Or distract the teacher so that the test gets delayed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/57 "2015-09-11T20:24:04Z")
The main criticisms of **davidmich** seem to be: - He asks a lot of questions in GQ. :eek: - He asks questions on a wide variety of topics. People can’t figure out what the connection between them is. Maybe he just has a wide range of interests. :eek::eek: - He expresses himself in a somewhat awkward manner. Maybe English isn’t his first language. Maybe he’s not very good at conversation. :eek::eek::eek: - He doesn’t participate in the more social aspects of the board. He doesn’t post in other people’s threads. :eek::eek::eek::eek: Pretty damning behavior there. Good reasons for a Pitting.:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/58 "2015-09-11T21:51:19Z")
He posts a LOT of threads in GQ. He NEVER (AFAIAA) posts outside his threads. His responses in his threads are often general, and only once or twice. I’ve not spotted him engage in an actual conversation in any of his threads. It’s like he’s not actually interested in the answers. All of which seems to me to sum up to being jerkish. Assuming he’s a he and not a bot. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/59 "2015-09-11T22:07:14Z")
You have a very odd definition of “jerkish”. It borders on “does things differently than I do.” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344/60 "2015-09-11T22:19:21Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > He posts a LOT of threads in GQ. That’s what it’s there for. Considering this an offense is idiotic. > [@](#): > > He NEVER (AFAIAA) posts outside his threads. So what? > [@](#): > > His responses in his threads are often general, and only once or twice. I’ve not spotted him engage in an actual conversation in any of his threads. It’s like he’s not actually interested in the answers. This is total bullshit. I’ve just looked at the last dozen threads he started. He responded multiple times in most of them, and his responses were usually on point. Contrary to what has been said, he does respond to other posters. It seems like you haven’t actually read many of his threads. > [@](#): > > All of which seems to me to sum up to being jerkish. Assuming he’s a he and not a bot. Considering such trivial “offenses” to be jerkish (even if true) is an absurd overreaction. On the other hand, I think it’s pretty jerkish to Pit someone over such nonsense. Yeah, you do respond to questions and report posts, but it’s not like you’re such a major contributor to the board that you can look down your nose at other posters. I do think this is like schoolyard dynamics in middle school where the odd nerdy kid who talks funny and doesn’t fit in or play games with the other kids is singled out for mockery. And I think the SDMB should be a haven for such kids, not give them shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-down-davidmich/730344.md?page=4)