# Come on England! (Let the chanting begin...)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 7, 2002, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812 "2002-06-07T10:55:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812/61 "2002-06-09T01:42:25Z")

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Although an excellent performance (I haven’t been this impressed since the 4-1 v Holland in the European Championships), I thought Beckham’s penalty was poor.  
If the keeper had taken a step the other way…

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**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812/62 "2002-06-10T09:54:51Z")

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I thought Ashley Cole had a fantastic game in keeping Ortega quiet…but I seem to be alone…

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812/63 "2002-06-10T10:04:57Z")

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No you’re not ! I did post that I thought he was Man of the Match (together with Butt …and the referee) not long after the game finished. The mystery for me is why Argentina continued to play Ortega in that position (wide on the right) when he’s so much more dangerous in creative and running positions just behind the forwards.

I thought Ashley Cole dominated Ortgea and the left flank – I lost count of the number of times Ortega had to pass to ‘backward-square’ rather than getting past Cole and either to the edge of the box or to the line for a cross.

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**Author:** ![Aro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Aro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aro)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812/64 "2002-06-10T10:58:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*  
> \*\*I thought Beckham’s penalty was poor.  
> If the keeper had taken a step the other way… \*\*

It was, but it went in and thats the bit that counts.

Don’t know if the Americans here get a feel for the level of coverage that Beckham gets here in the UK, but his life would have been forfeit if he had missed. All I can say is the balls it took for him to walk up and take that penalty were…incredible.

The difference that one kick made to the rest of his life is immeasurable. After the death threats at the last world cup.

Exorcised a LOT of demons. Gutsy as hell.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2002, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812/65 "2002-06-30T13:57:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crusoe \*  
> \*\*On the same day as the World Cup final, Montserrat are playing Bhutan in an international friendly that will effectively decide the worst team in the world (based on FIFA rankings).
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> Someone remind me to get the score from this game. \*\*

[Here’s the result.](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/other_news/newsid_2075000/2075692.stm) Reckon the Latics could 'ave 'em?

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2002, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-england-let-the-chanting-begin/112812/66 "2002-06-30T14:42:58Z")

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Nope!

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