# Come on, Texas.. you're looking REALLY stupid now

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102 "2005-08-15T15:23:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/21 "2005-08-15T16:02:14Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> I expect a press release soon as well from the NRA regarding drinking and shooting.

Hope.

Fading.

Now expecting a press release from Keystone Light, announcing that it shouldn’t really be considered beer.

but then again I’ve been waiting for _that_ press release from the moment it went on sale

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/22 "2005-08-15T16:03:20Z")

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> [@Uvula Donor](#):
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> How many colors does trash come in, anyway? I only see people mention “white.”

Trash comes in more colors than the human eye can see. I like to think of it as God’s rainbow. Seriously, though, do we really need another “why the term white trash is hate speech” thread? Can’t someone bump the old one to add their no doubt unique take?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/23 "2005-08-15T16:05:27Z")

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What really sucks is I had to settle for Collins in my fantasy league because I loaded up on RBs and WRs.

Also, while **Hal** is completely correct in that the 9ers suck, that’s different from SUCK, which is what the Raiders do/are.

longtime Bronco fan here, see? 😉

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/24 "2005-08-15T16:07:09Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> Seriously, though, do we really need another “why the term white trash is hate speech” thread?

Nope, we don’t, and sorry, that wasn’t my intention.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/25 "2005-08-15T16:15:51Z")

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In fairness to Mr. Mattlage, it said he fired into the air. Then, someone warned that he couldn’t fire “across the road”.

It doesn’t actually say he fired across the road, or that anyone saw him fire across the road.

I’ve known lots of stupid people who own guns and they still wouldn’t fire a shotgun in the general direction of anyone.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/26 "2005-08-15T16:20:22Z")

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The boy’s jumpin’ the start of Rightwing Dove season a tad, ain’t he?

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**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/27 "2005-08-15T16:54:58Z")

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FWIW dove season will start on the 1st of September in TX.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/28 "2005-08-15T17:08:29Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> Trash comes in more colors than the human eye can see. I like to think of it as God’s rainbow. Seriously, though, do we really need another “why the term white trash is hate speech” thread? Can’t someone bump the old one to add their no doubt unique take?

You are the first one to bring up hate speech, so that’s on you, brother. It is a demeaning, dehumanizing, idiotic phrase that speaks ill of he who utters it. Are we now prohibited from voicing our opinions?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/29 "2005-08-15T17:13:06Z")

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> [@zuma](#):
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> he’s all white trash and you can barely understand what he said.l

Your homework assignment for the week is to read [this 12 page thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=326110&highlight=ebonics) and then reoport back here telling us what you learned.

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**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/30 "2005-08-15T17:20:12Z")

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> [@linked article](#):
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> Other neighbors expressed admiration for Mattlage’s one-man stand. “I wish I had the nerve to do something like that,” said Army Sgt. Vernon “Dusty” Harrison, who spent a year in Iraq and owns an adjacent property. “I salute his bravery.”

A man who spent a year in Iraq is calling a guy who shot a gun into the air “brave” - it boggles, it just boggles.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/31 "2005-08-15T17:21:40Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> In fairness to Mr. Mattlage, it said he fired into the air. Then, someone warned that he couldn’t fire “across the road”.
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> It doesn’t actually say he fired across the road, or that anyone saw him fire across the road.

“Across the road” could describe where the subject was standing when he fired his shotgun. Also, keep in mind that this is a statement from McLennan County Sheriff Larry Lynch.

I am typing this on 17th street in Washington DC. Although not my preferred choice of syntax, I could say “The President tossed his cookies across the street”.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/32 "2005-08-15T17:23:18Z")

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I suppose there should be a comma after cookies. That’s probably what was missing in the quote from the Sheriff.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/33 "2005-08-15T17:23:56Z")

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Dude, don’t use the term “White Trash” when you are talking about white trash. Instead use the secret code words:

Whiskey Tango

That way you can say it right in front of them and they won’t know it! I’ll bet the first cop on scene with this asshole shooting his gun radioed into HQ “No problems, here guys. It’s just a Whiskey Tango situation. A guy is getting ready for dove season.”

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/34 "2005-08-15T17:24:16Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> … Are we now prohibited from voicing our opinions?

My first instinct is to say: “yes, please stop voicing your opinions.” But then I realized that you probably deserve an honest answer and have done nothing to deserve me being a dick to you. So I will do that instead.

My take is that at some point along the line the term white trash has become one of those SDMB sacred cows (sort of like fat people, de-clawing cats and a few others). The moment you see it come up, you can count on the thread going south as one person protests, another tries to justify the term and then off we go! So, while I can understand why some folks might object to the term, I was just posting in the hope that we could short-circuit the process.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/35 "2005-08-15T17:27:00Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> My take is that at some point along the line the term white trash has become one of those SDMB sacred cows (sort of like fat people, de-clawing cats and a few others).

You’re right! The only thing worse than white trash is those gay, fat white trash folks who declaw their cats.

Man, do they ever suck.

Seriously: White trash is offensive? I must’ve missed the memo. (And the trainwreck threads.)

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/36 "2005-08-15T17:32:29Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> You’re right! The only thing worse than white trash is those gay, fat white trash folks who declaw their cats.
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> Man, do they ever suck.
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> Seriously: White trash is offensive? I must’ve missed the memo. (And the trainwreck threads.)

Look, I tried to give an honest and sarcasm free response. What the hell is your problem?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/37 "2005-08-15T17:34:46Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> My first instinct is to say: “yes, please stop voicing your opinions.” But then I realized that you probably deserve an honest answer and have done nothing to deserve me being a dick to you. So I will do that instead.
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> My take is that at some point along the line the term white trash has become one of those SDMB sacred cows (sort of like fat people, de-clawing cats and a few others). The moment you see it come up, you can count on the thread going south as one person protests, another tries to justify the term and then off we go! So, while I can understand why some folks might object to the term, I was just posting in the hope that we could short-circuit the process.

Thanks for the reply.

The thing is, there are some people who are offended deeply by the term. We have no recourse other than to note that whenever it comes up in hopes of either educating the offender, or becoming such a nuisance that using the term is not worth the effort. The only other option is to let it stand unchallenged, which serves neither purpose.

I agree that threads sometimes go south when the subject comes up. Were the term never used, of course, that would never happen. You will note that I have altered my tactics, I hope.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/38 "2005-08-15T17:35:59Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> So, while I can understand why some folks might object to the term, I was just posting in the hope that we could short-circuit the process.

And here I was just pokin’ fun at the California guy for automatically assuming the Texas guy was “white trash” since he was drinkin’ a beer and shootin’ a gun and all that stoopid stuff that cool people from California _never do._

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/39 "2005-08-15T17:38:42Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> Look, I tried to give an honest and sarcasm free response. What the hell is your problem?

Chill. I’m just saying that I didn’t know that “White Trash” is one of the sacred SDMB cows. Gays, Obesity, Declawing Cats, etc, are all definitely on my “forbidden to mention without a massive landslide of shit” list. I’ll have to add white trash as well. Is it so awful that I chuckle a bit while I do so?

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-texas-youre-looking-really-stupid-now/317102/40 "2005-08-15T17:41:05Z")

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[Hoping to head off the hijack] \<==== **Lib** , that is a throw away line and does not require comment

I also think I’d be pretty pissed if I was the guy living next to Bush. I don’t see that he did anything wrong. He didn’t break any laws. \<==== **Lib** , these are throw away line and does not require you to comment on them.

I am simply try to end the hijack.

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