# Come on you homosexual demon! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486 "2009-06-30T15:57:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/41 "2009-07-01T00:05:36Z")
When you have a part of you that you do not like, whether it’s because you do not want to be that way or because others do not want you to be that way, it is possible to externalize that portion of yourself to the point where it becomes “other”. At that point, it is possible to view this “other” as an external entity, a Demon if you will, that needs to be cast out. But as I learned; When you try to tear yourself apart to remove the parts you don’t like, the only thing you succeed in doing is to tear yourself apart. And it can take years to put yourself back together again. If you can. If you can accept that those “others” are really parts of you and make peace with them. If you can face the truth of it. If you can’t, then your self-created demons will eventually destroy you. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/42 "2009-07-01T00:07:27Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > And along the same lines, are all gay people possesed? That’s gotta be like, a couple million demons in the US alone. Aw jeez. Why did you have to go and ask that? Now, as a non possesed non gay, I won’t know who the “cool” gays are. And what if you are gay but not sure if you’re possesed, but just want to experiement for a little bit? Are there levels of possesedness? ETA: Great. Now the Chimera is giving us a new age lecture on demons. I’ll be at the bar. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/43 "2009-07-01T00:44:13Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I wouldn’t exactly call it charges, per se. What happened is the kid showed the video to a counselor of some type in his gay youth support group. That counselor considered herself obligated to file a report of suspected abuse with the Child Welfare department. The counselor is probably a “mandatory reporter”–many people that regularly deal with children are. A “mandatory reporter” has very little discretion. If they see something that reasonably appears to be child abuse, they are required by law to promptly file a report with the appropriate agency. The agency then conducts an investigation, at least in theory, and has the power to remove the child from that situation and take further actions. Ah, now I geddit! ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/44 "2009-07-01T00:55:02Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > When you have a part of you that you do not like, whether it’s because you do not want to be that way or because others do not want you to be that way, it is possible to externalize that portion of yourself to the point where it becomes “other”. > > At that point, it is possible to view this “other” as an external entity, a Demon if you will, that needs to be cast out. > > But as I learned; When you try to tear yourself apart to remove the parts you don’t like, the only thing you succeed in doing is to tear yourself apart. And it can take years to put yourself back together again. > > If you can. If you can accept that those “others” are really parts of you and make peace with them. If you can face the truth of it. > > If you can’t, then your self-created demons will eventually destroy you. This is entirely too thoughtful a response. Looks like somebody had their silly demon exorcised. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/45 "2009-07-01T01:17:56Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I liked Stephen Colbert’s report on this. “You fools! Now there’s a homosexual demon on the loose!” That’s why we have Sam and Dean. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/46 "2009-07-01T01:43:52Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > You were taught not to confuse > the pink palace and iron rods > blown a few steel reeds > Come on you raper, > you sower of queer seeds, > Come on your fabulous > bhutsecks gay partners > and Come on you homosexual demon! Bravo, sir. ---
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/47 "2009-07-01T01:45:09Z")
> [@drain bead](#): > > i don’t see how coming on the homosexual demon is going to help _anything_. WOo!! I’M EXORCISING LIKE A MOTHER FUCK!!! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/48 "2009-07-01T02:21:55Z")
> [@Rack-a-Bones](#): > > ETA: Great. Now the Chimera is giving us a new age lecture on demons. I’ll be at the bar. And here I just came to this thread from the thread asking if the battle against ignorance could ever be won. :rolleyes: Go drink your beer. Hopefully it will kill the stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/49 "2009-07-01T02:43:29Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Go drink your beer. Hopefully it will kill the stupid. Oh no! A fire water demon! ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/50 "2009-07-01T03:17:26Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Where are all the straight demons possessing cute girls making them want to have sex with overweight, overworked, older men? At the bottoms of liquor bottles. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/51 "2009-07-01T03:26:15Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Not at all. In _Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada_ the Supreme Court held that requiring a suspect to simply identify himself did not infringe on his Fourth or Fifth Amendment rights. Yes, but if a suspect were to identify himself as a demon via the alleged possessee’s mouth, would that not be self-incrimination? Sure, if you were to ask a free-floating demon his name, I can understand how that would be okay. However, since possession of a human host is (in the view of some authorities) a crime, would not the self identification of a demon as a demon while possessing a human host be self-incrimination? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/52 "2009-07-01T03:28:51Z")
You have to read him his Madonna rights first. Then, if you have to, you can holy waterboard him. Thats from the _really_ Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/53 "2009-07-01T03:33:27Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > While it’s far from clear to me that this is actionable legally, and I know I shouldn’t laugh because this kind of idiocy causes real pain to those living through it, I couldn’t help myself. The notion that being gay is caused by being possessed by a homosexual demon, and that this demon is powerful enough to make its host desire sexual contact with those he would otherwise be utterly indifferent to, sexually speaking… and yet this powerful demon will depart because he’s told to do so is… well… pretty funny to me.] [**Of course** it is!](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0273/0273_01.asp)😃 > [@Lot](#): > > My brothers! **This isn’t right!** Take my virgin daughters instead! Come to think of it, the evangelist in this tract has a **really** gay 'stache . . . What’s **that** all about?! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/54 "2009-07-01T04:00:23Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > That’s why we have Sam and Dean. Wait, to hunt down the free gay demon, or to serve as it’s host. If it’s the former, boo on that. If it’s the latter, yay on that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/55 "2009-07-01T12:34:49Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > WTF is a gay demon name? Sure, if you ask and the response is “Bruce” with a lisp you might have a gay demon on your hands…or an ELO fan. Is ther some Master Demon Name list with a little asterix next to the gay ones? [Wiki has a list of demons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_theological_demons), but doesn’t identify which ones are gay. ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/56 "2009-07-01T12:37:27Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > [Wiki has a list of demons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_theological_demons), but doesn’t identify which ones are gay. Maybe the super spooky, Secret Squirrel list they keep in the Vatican has more information that Wikipedia is allowed to share. I’ve said too much. _skips away_ ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/57 "2009-07-01T13:03:41Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Where are all the straight demons possessing cute girls making them want to have sex with overweight, overworked, older men? > > Great. Now it isn’t just girls who don’t want me, it’s demons too. You have to wave paper copies of the image of Ben Franklin (patron saint of fat older guys who got a lot) at them, preferably on identical green bills. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/58 "2009-07-01T13:57:56Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Exorcising without a properly stamped state license I suppose. > [@villa](#): > > Available from the Customs and Excorcise Division, I assume. I’d assume you get it where you get your [fish license](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnq96W9jtuw). I am mildly curious: why is this thread in Teh Pit? I’ve yet to see anything pitworthy in the thread, as entertaining as it has been. To be pitworthy it needs something like this: You FUCKING ASSHOLES, don’t you REALIZE what an IDIOTIC concept you are using when you abuse a child this way??? You ought to be roasted alive before the rest of your countrymen, in order to exorcise the DAMN-FOOL SHITHEAD DAEMONS that apparently INFEST your STUPID MORONIC BRAINS!!! There, now it belongs here. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/59 "2009-07-01T14:49:04Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Yes, but if a suspect were to identify himself as a demon via the alleged possessee’s mouth, would that not be self-incrimination? > > Sure, if you were to ask a free-floating demon his name, I can understand how that would be okay. However, since possession of a human host is (in the view of some authorities) a crime, would not the self identification of a demon as a demon while possessing a human host be self-incrimination? As I understand it, they merely asked the demon to name itself. This is probably analogous to asking that question of a fugitive, where by simply providing the name, he may expose his wanted status and make himself subject to arrest. But that still doesn’t create a Fifth Amendment right to refuse to identify himself; the name itself is not “a link in the chain of evidence needed to prosecute him.” They clearly had reasonable suspicion under _Brown v. Texas_ to assume there was a demon involved – after all, why else would someone be gay? And as the Court said in Hiibel: > [@](#): > > One’s identity is, by definition, unique; yet it is, in another sense, a universal characteristic. . . . . . Even witnesses who plan to invoke the Fifth Amendment privilege answer when their names are called to take the stand. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/60 "2009-07-01T16:14:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > As I understand it, they merely asked the demon to name itself. This is probably analogous to asking that question of a fugitive, where by simply providing the name, he may expose his wanted status and make himself subject to arrest. But that still doesn’t create a Fifth Amendment right to refuse to identify himself; the name itself is not “a link in the chain of evidence needed to prosecute him.” They clearly had reasonable suspicion under _Brown v. Texas_ to assume there was a demon involved – after all, why else would someone be gay? And as the Court said in Hiibel: Thank you. This is why I love The Dope. Looks like I’ll be able to start some demon casting without worry that the exorcism can be overturned on a technicality. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486.md?page=4)