# Come on you homosexual demon! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486 "2009-06-30T15:57:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/61 "2009-07-01T16:27:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Wiki has a list of demons, but doesn’t identify which ones are gay. Look for the demons that are suspiciously well groomed. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/62 "2009-07-01T16:39:28Z")
I exercise my demon twice a day, otherwise it starts chewing on the furniture. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/63 "2009-07-01T21:38:48Z")
“[My fundamentalist sister] told me, ‘You have Satan inside of you!’ So I worked it. ‘Mom? Can I have some more turkey? I’m eating for two.’” - Suzanne Westenhoefer Seriously, though, this is really awful for the kid. It’s not unique, either. I know of a couple people who were subjected to exorcisms when they were younger for being gay. They rarely like to talk about it. ---
**Author:** ![Other\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Other\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Other_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/64 "2009-07-02T09:28:02Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > When you have a part of you that you do not like, whether it’s because you do not want to be that way or because others do not want you to be that way, it is possible to externalize that portion of yourself to the point where it becomes “other”. > > At that point, it is possible to view this “other” as an external entity, a Demon if you will, that needs to be cast out. > > But as I learned; When you try to tear yourself apart to remove the parts you don’t like, the only thing you succeed in doing is to tear yourself apart. And it can take years to put yourself back together again. > > If you can. If you can accept that those “others” are really parts of you and make peace with them. If you can face the truth of it. > > If you can’t, then your self-created demons will eventually destroy you. I’m what now? ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/65 "2009-07-02T22:02:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > From [ABC](http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=7928669) the report on an attempt to cure gayness by exorcising the homosexual demon responsible for the problem. > > While it’s far from clear to me that this is actionable legally, and I know I shouldn’t laugh because this kind of idiocy causes real pain to those living through it, I couldn’t help myself. The notion that being gay is caused by being possessed by a homosexual demon, and that this demon is powerful enough to make its host desire sexual contact with those he would otherwise be utterly indifferent to, sexually speaking… and yet this powerful demon will depart because he’s told to do so is… well… pretty funny to me. > > Not funny to the kid, of course, and my heart goes out to him. But… c’mon. “Come on you homosexual demon!” Yeah! That’ll do it! Let me ask: Would a male have to have a separate demon to make him not “like” gals, no matter how lovely they look and dress, pleasant they appear, or inviting they act? Or does one demon do double duty? Are bi guys lacking the second demon, or do all just have the original demon, but one a bit on the lazy side for them? And is there a separate kind of demon to make the lez ladies not go for any Willy? Just asking. -^ ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/66 "2009-07-02T23:22:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > As I understand it, they merely asked the demon to name itself. This is probably analogous to asking that question of a fugitive, where by simply providing the name, he may expose his wanted status and make himself subject to arrest. But that still doesn’t create a Fifth Amendment right to refuse to identify himself; the name itself is not “a link in the chain of evidence needed to prosecute him.” But doesn’t giving the name tacitly admit to being a demon? It’s not just leaving oneself more open to being found out, but a confession. I would have said that a more analogous question would be something more like, “What alias did you go under whilst committing fraud?”. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/67 "2009-07-03T14:07:57Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > But doesn’t giving the name tacitly admit to being a demon? It’s not just leaving oneself more open to being found out, but a confession. I would have said that a more analogous question would be something more like, “What alias did you go under whilst committing fraud?”. How so? I admit to no expertise in demon naming convention, but does the name itself prove it’s a demon? In other words, isn’t the answer just as likely to be “Steve,” as “Asmodozian of the Thousand Biles?” ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/68 "2009-07-03T16:36:00Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How so? I admit to no expertise in demon naming convention, but does the name itself prove it’s a demon? In other words, isn’t the answer just as likely to be “Steve,” as “Asmodozian of the Thousand Biles?” It’s the apos’trophes. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/69 "2009-07-03T17:45:08Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How so? I admit to no expertise in demon naming convention, but does the name itself prove it’s a demon? In other words, isn’t the answer just as likely to be “Steve,” as “Asmodozian of the Thousand Biles?” I think the question is, if there is a rule that a demon must name itself when asked to do so, is there any other entity that can possess a person that is not a demon, but likewise will name itself when asked, willingly or not, thereby engendering reasonable doubt that the possessing entity is in fact a demon? If a demon is the only type of possessing entity that will name itself when asked, then the simple act of giving the name would be incriminatory, whether it was “Percy” or “Ozz’Otha’ahf, Semi-dark Lord of Gas Station Toilets.” ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/70 "2009-07-03T23:00:06Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How so? I admit to no expertise in demon naming convention, but does the name itself prove it’s a demon? In other words, isn’t the answer just as likely to be “Steve,” as “Asmodozian of the Thousand Biles?” It’s not the name itself that would provide evidence, but the ability to and do use that name. If you’re answering the question, “Steve” is not the only information you’re giving; by giving an answer of a name at all, whatever it may be, you’re confessing that there is such a demon. If I ask you what colour shirt you’re wearing, and you say “white”, not only have I learned what colour the shirt is but also that you are, according to you, wearing one. If a suspect is asked for the alias under which he committed fraud, and he says “Steve”, he’s not just saying “I used that alias” but “I used that lias while committing fraud”. And so if someone is asked the name of the demon possessing them, and they say “Steve” they’re not just saying “Steve is the name of the demon” but “Steve is the name of the demon possessing me”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/71 "2009-07-04T02:51:22Z")
At last a subject where my education has relevance! I hold graduate degrees in Thaumaturgy with a minor in Necromantic Sciences from Miskatonic University… The tradition of the controlling power of a name is so ancient, it disappears into the mist. If you have the name of a spirit, you have the power to “bind” it, bend it to your will. Some of the Synoptic Gospels make quite a bit out of Jesus’ mastery of demons. Not with rituals and spells, but with direct power. The Boss says “Split!” and the demon did what he was told. > [@](#): > > Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an evil spirit cried out, “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are - the Holy One of God!” > > “Be quiet!” said Jesus sternly. “Come out of him!” The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek. > > The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, “What is this? A new teaching - and with authority! He even gives orders to evil spirits and they obey him!” News about him spread quickly over the whole region of Galilee. – Mark 1:21-28 In one passage describing the Gadarene pig splash, Jesus does ask the demons name, and is told “Legion, for we are many”. But in another description, The Boss don’t play that, he just does his peremptory ass kicking, no effort is made to get the name. So, anyway, the whole “getting the name” thing goes at least that far back. Curiously, it may have a reverse importance in the case of Jesus. His disciples report that some exorcists in the next county have started to us Jesus’ name as a component of their magic (pagan) rituals, and the disciples tell him they gave them some shit about that, since they weren’t Christians, or even Jews, they were operating under false pretense. Jesus told them to forget it, anybody working to do good is on the right side. Of course, this sort of primitive magical stuff is ok for Palestinian trailer-trash, but for the educated Hellenistic world this sort of thing had to be soft-pedaled a wee bit. But every once in a while there is a revival, usually to the embarassment of staid and proper churchmen. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/72 "2009-07-04T04:06:09Z")
[Mama slapped the gay out](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_92mpECYubY) (YouTube) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/73 "2009-07-04T05:08:52Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > **Come on you homosexual demon!** You **do** realize, don’t you, that that phrase sounds kinda like pillow talk? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/74 "2009-07-04T05:15:39Z")
To whom? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/75 "2009-07-04T17:04:37Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > [Mama slapped the gay out](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_92mpECYubY) (YouTube) That was…well I don’t know what that was but it was something! ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/76 "2009-07-04T17:39:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You have to read him his Madonna rights first. Then, if you have to, you can holy waterboard him. I’ve done some research and I’m pretty sure you mean holy _watersports_ him. Waterboarding is torture. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/77 "2009-07-04T17:39:53Z")
iI keep seeing the title of the thread as _Homosexual demon, come on down!_ and imagine an audience roaring and hooting with approval as the excited gay demon rushes down towards a beaming Bob Barker. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Other\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Other\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Other_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/78 "2009-07-04T18:08:17Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > iI keep seeing the title of the thread as _Homosexual demon, come on down!_ and imagine an audience roaring and hooting with approval as the excited gay demon rushes down towards a beaming Bob Barker. 🙂 What a funny coincidence, that is what my death will be like! (I received notice in advance; fairly expensive.) ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/79 "2009-07-04T19:20:16Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > …[Jesus’] disciples report that some exorcists in the next county have started to us[e] Jesus’ name as a component of their magic (pagan) rituals, and the disciples tell him they gave them some shit about that,… I appreciated your previous example and the verse it came from. Can you help me find this verse? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486/80 "2009-07-04T19:27:07Z")
Dimly recall it being in Matthew, you can probably find it by focusing on “Rebuke them not, for he who is not against us is with us.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/come-on-you-homosexual-demon/501486.md?page=5)