# Comey Memo: Trump Told Him - Shut Down Flynn Probe **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 16, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792 "2017-05-16T21:40:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/21 "2017-05-16T23:43:26Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump will have to deny this. Even with this Congress, I don’t see how he can stay in office if he admits he told his FBI Director to stop an investigation of a White House staffer. That’s Obstruction of Justice. Because he doesn’t give a fuck. He literally thinks that he is unimpeachable, and as it stands, he’s essentially correct. Remember, this is the fuckhole _who bragged during a campaign rally in Iowa that “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.”_ This wasn’t hyperbole; he genuinely believes this. Next to that, defying the FBI director is just taking a piss in public. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/22 "2017-05-16T23:48:24Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Not only is Trump not as smart as he thinks, he’s not even as as smart as the he thinks the people challenging him are stupid. He is literally incapable of believing that someone can outmaneuver him in his mental game of one dimensional Snakes & Ladders. He plays Hearts with only one suite. When he plays craps, he only rolls one die with “Winner” and “Loser” printed on it, and he inks over the latter with a Sharpie so all rolls are successful. He could literally lose the game, “Eat Your Ice Cream” by swallowing his spoon. In fact, in retrospect, it is pretty surprising he has survived this long without drowning while drinking a glass of water. > > Doesn’t matter, Ryan won’t let him get impeached. Ryan won’t even let him eat peaches because Trump would probably break a tooth on the pit. At this point, Trump could hand over plans for our next generation stealth bomber and his apologists in Congress and out would argue that he’s just doing what is within presidential authority to do, so it is A-okay. > > Stranger Another gem. Love it. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/23 "2017-05-16T23:48:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump will have to deny this. Even with this Congress, I don’t see how he can stay in office if he admits he told his FBI Director to stop an investigation of a White House staffer. And then _fired that FBI Director._ > [@](#): > > That’s Obstruction of Justice. Big-ly Obstruction of Justice! ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/24 "2017-05-16T23:49:59Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Cover your … tuchus? Oy vey! “Tracks,” apparently (but “tush” or “tuchus” work as well). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/25 "2017-05-16T23:51:32Z")
Or “tail”. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/26 "2017-05-16T23:56:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s Obstruction of Justice. Cite, please. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/27 "2017-05-16T23:59:49Z")
[He won’t get impeached ever.](http://gizmodo.com/fox-news-got-trump-elected-and-fox-news-is-the-reason-h-1795080589) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/28 "2017-05-17T00:18:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > No one knew the FBI was so complicated! With complete sincerity, I don’t think that joke is going to get old for me . 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/29 "2017-05-17T00:49:43Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Cite, please. This really isn’t that hard. [quote = wiki] The crime of obstruction of justice, in United States jurisdictions, refers to the crime of obstructing prosecutors or other (usually government) officials. [/quote] . IMHO, and many others, a boss asking you to stop investigating them, and then firing them whey they don’t would be obstruction. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/30 "2017-05-17T00:51:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And the denials have begun: > I predict more denials, followed by a tweet at 5:00 am tomorrow morning where Trump confirms that it’s true, and throws more of his spokespeople under the bus. “I made the call to fire Leakin’ Comey when he refused to make the FAKE NEWS Russia story go away. Disloyal!” ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/31 "2017-05-17T01:35:45Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > [He won’t get impeached ever.](http://gizmodo.com/fox-news-got-trump-elected-and-fox-news-is-the-reason-h-1795080589) [The latest news](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/chaffetz-seeks-copies-comeys-memos-saying-have-my-subpoena-pen-ready.html) is that Chaffetz is subpoenaing the memos that Comey wrote, saying “If true, these memoranda raise questions as to whether the President attempted to influence or impede the FBI’s investigation as it release [sic] to Lt. Gen. Flynn.” [I don’t know if that typo is in the Chaffetz letter or just the reporting of it.] And, as my link shows, even Fox News is reporting on this. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/32 "2017-05-17T01:50:04Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > If Trump tried to get Comey to stop the Flynn investigation then we edge closer to Obstruction of Justice - and therefore Impeachment. Issue: how do you prove it. Apparently contemporaneous FBI agent notes are considered evidence in good standing in the courts. But will congress agree? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/33 "2017-05-17T01:50:59Z")
I would be equally surprised to hear that Chafetz developed a spine or a conscience. Verily, WTF? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/34 "2017-05-17T01:56:34Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > Apparently contemporaneous FBI agent notes are considered evidence in good standing in the courts. But will congress agree? You think this is the only evidence Comey and the FBI have? There’s going to be a slow constant drip drip drip of fresh and damning evidence from now until impeachment proceedings begin or Trump resigns. Here’s another gem: > **[Trump Officials on Comey Memo: ‘Don’t See How Trump Isn’t Completely F\*cked’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-officials-on-comey-memo-dont-see-how-trump-isnt-completely-fcked)** > > The president reportedly asked the FBI director to stop investigating Trump’s top national-security aide—a bombshell that has an already-beleaguered White House begging for mercy. “Trump Officials on Comey Memo: ‘Don’t See How Trump Isn’t Completely F\*cked” And of course if Trump resigns then he’s a private citizen and that sealed indictment against him can proceed with a regular trial… ---
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/35 "2017-05-17T02:09:30Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Cite, please. Wondering that myself. How is this obstruction? Please no ‘well, it just is’ response. Maybe a lawyer here will lay out the elements of obstruction and how each is answered by the facts. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/36 "2017-05-17T02:10:35Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I tell ya, we’re going to be telling our grandchildren about this. They probably won’t believe us, but this has been an interesting time to be an American. Given the trajectory of American politics, future Presidents may be even worse. There’s a through line connecting GWB, to Palin, to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/37 "2017-05-17T02:14:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I would be equally surprised to hear that Chafetz developed a spine or a conscience. Verily, WTF? It’s called "developing an exit strategy, " as in the philandering husband who sets his wife up with a young male trainer and has a private investigator trailing them to get evidence of infidelity so he can justify divorce. He aims to run for that office by distinguishing himself from his Republican brethren even though he is just as craven and intransigently disingenuous as the worst of them. That supercilious, MLM-profitting ass-lemur has no conscience and his spine is pure, Cosby-era Jell-O Pudding. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/38 "2017-05-17T02:14:31Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Because he doesn’t give a fuck. He literally thinks that he is unimpeachable, and as it stands, he’s essentially correct. Remember, this is the fuckhole _who bragged during a campaign rally in Iowa that “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.”_ This wasn’t hyperbole; he genuinely believes this. Next to that, defying the FBI director is just taking a piss in public. As bad as things look for Trump now, I have to agree with this. Ryan will say that he believes Trump’s denial, and that will be the end of it. Even if Ryan proceeded with impeachment—which he won’t—McConnell would make sure the Senate vote was nowhere near two thirds. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/39 "2017-05-17T02:15:13Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Or “tail”. Or taint. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792/40 "2017-05-17T02:17:39Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I would be equally surprised to hear that Chafetz developed a spine or a conscience. Verily, WTF? Chaffetz has announced that he’s not running for reelection in 2018, so he doesn’t have much to lose at this point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comey-memo-trump-told-him-shut-down-flynn-probe/786792.md?page=3)