# Comfort Crap, Chick Tracks, and CBN - oh my! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086 "2009-11-02T19:04:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/21 "2009-11-03T01:03:37Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > “Hate Speech” is a legal term. It’s also a political & moral term. > [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > You can’t just ignore the meaning of the phrase when it has already been defined. You asked "Since when has condemning or mocking a belief system been “hate speech?” I answered the question, and yet you continue to ignore the facts in front of you, because doing otherwise would conflict with your own hatred. No; because the definition you are using is both illogical and not what is actually practiced. Again; is condemning the Aztec practice of human sacrifice hate speech? ---
**Author:** ![hierophant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@hierophant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hierophant)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/22 "2009-11-03T02:15:12Z")
Monkey, if you had even bothered to read your own link you’d see that “condemning a religion” does not even remotely meet the legal standard of hate speech in Canada (nor, to my knowledge, of anywhere else either.) What in the world would make you think that condemning a religion amounts to hate speech anywhere? That is totally impossible to square with actual hate speech laws anywhere. Don’t you know anything at all about the subject you’re “debating”? How embarrassing this must be for you. And Der Trish, shame on you for not noticing this and pointing it out yourself. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/23 "2009-11-03T02:31:51Z")
“Moslem” is hate speech now, because there is a racist difference between the “short O” and the “short U?” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/24 "2009-11-03T03:16:04Z")
Just to flesh-out **hierophant** ’s post for those to busy to click on the damned link (in **AMWaG** ’s post, the part in red), > [@](#): > > **The Criminal Code of Canada** > > Sections 318, 319, and 320 of the Code forbid hate propaganda. “Hate propaganda” means “any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319.” Section 318 prescribes imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years for anyone who advocates genocide. The Code defines genocide as the destruction of an “identifiable group.” The Code defines an “identifiable group” as “any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.” Section 319 prescribes penalties from a fine to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years for anyone who incites hatred against any identifiable group. Section 320 allows a judge to confiscate publications which appear to be hate propaganda. Under section 319, an accused is not guilty: (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true; (b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text; (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada. Doesn’t sound to me like condemning a religion is hate speech according to Canadian law. But I can understand missing that the law is about “Hate propaganda” which means “any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide …” and “incit(ing) hatred against any identifiable group” given that your **A Monkey With a Gun** and not **A Monkey With a Nominal Level of Reading Comprehension**. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/25 "2009-11-03T04:01:10Z")
Oh, for Chrissake, people! Who cares about “hate speech” laws??? We’re supposed to be mocking the idiocy of people who think that Halloween is about virgin sacrifices and shit! MOCK MOCK MOCK!!! Where’s the mocking??? ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/26 "2009-11-03T14:42:47Z")
> [@Plynck](#): > > It’s really the only safe way to do it. Some people grind up and snort their time release curses all at once, and end up with a cursing monkey on their backs. Damn. :o I hadn’t been paying much attention to who was posting here. This was obviously an oxycontin joke, and not a jab at **A Monkey With a Gun**. I apologize, and hope no one took offense. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/27 "2009-11-03T17:23:29Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > “Hate Speech” is a legal term. You can’t just ignore the meaning of the phrase when it has already been defined. You asked "Since when has condemning or mocking a belief system been “hate speech?” I answered the question, and yet you continue to ignore the facts in front of you, because doing otherwise would conflict with your own hatred. Hate speech is directed against people, rather than against ideas. You should probably ensure you have your definitions straight before castigating others for ignoring them. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/28 "2009-11-03T19:36:15Z")
Hoo boy. In my 7 years as a practicing Wiccan, I don’t remember ever praying over candy. Wicca, like any religion, is a matter of free will: you can’t be forced to join. Sounds like some people need to spend some time in the others shoes before they open their yaps. Oh, and our kids did go trick or treating this year, with full support of their Christian parents. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/29 "2009-11-03T20:39:24Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Oh, and Pat Robertson’s always good for a laugh. What’s a “revel night”? The closest I can think of is [Devil’s Night.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Night) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/30 "2009-11-05T04:17:06Z")
> [@Juliana](#): > > Hoo boy. In my 7 years as a practicing Wiccan, I don’t remember ever praying over candy. I notice you didn’t deny dedicating Hallowe’en candy. What have you got to hide, eh? :dubious: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/31 "2009-11-05T15:57:48Z")
Just so I’m clear on this, if someone wicked prayed over my candy, can I get it ‘unprayed’ by having someone nice pray over it? Damnit man, there’s candy at stake here! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/32 "2009-11-05T16:14:40Z")
> [@ArrMatey](#): > > Just so I’m clear on this, if someone wicked prayed over my candy, can I get it ‘unprayed’ by having someone nice pray over it? > > Damnit man, there’s candy at stake here! I know you are joking, but there is an answer to that question: Yes. You can call down the strongholds. Or you can just be a Christian, as they can drink poison and not be harmed. (Few believe this is literal. referring instead to supernatural poison.) What I don’t get is why so many Christians are so totally afraid of the Devil. They have an Almighty God on their side. As for hate speech: yes it has to be against a person, not the idea, the same way Christianity is supposed to condemn sin, not the sinner. But I’ve seen posts where Der Trihs does not make this distinction. He also seems to be incapable of realizing that not all Christians (or religious people in general) are the type he seems to hate. I almost wonder if he’s paranoid. He’s always screaming that religious people are out to get him. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/33 "2009-11-05T20:11:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > What I don’t get is why so many Christians are so totally afraid of the Devil. They have an Almighty God on their side. Because in Christian tradition God has given the Devil permission to tempt, torment and try humans, just as with Job. If you get into a tussle with Satan you’re on your own unless and until the Big Guy steps in. A test of your faith, doncha know, all part of God’s plan, BS like that. The upshot is that Christians can’t count on God to rescue them from the Devil. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086/34 "2009-11-05T20:54:01Z")
> [@kidneyfailure](#): > > Oh, for Chrissake, people! Who cares about “hate speech” laws??? We’re supposed to be mocking the idiocy of people who think that Halloween is about virgin sacrifices and shit! > > MOCK MOCK MOCK!!! Where’s the mocking??? Right here: [My Name is Mok](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSGIZp9bBK4) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comfort-crap-chick-tracks-and-cbn-oh-my/516086.md?page=1)