# Comic book moments which, sadly, you will never see... (possible spoilage) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 3, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049 "2004-08-03T00:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2004, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/21 "2004-08-03T23:48:26Z")
> [@Peter Morris](#): > > There _was_ a comic where The Punisher jumped out of a cake at a gangster’s wedding, and killed half the guests. Simpsons did it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/22 "2004-08-04T01:14:05Z")
> [@Murcielago](#): > > When I recently read _The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe_ by Garth Ennis, I enjoyed a number of things which I never thought I would see. > > [spoiler]Point-blank head shots for Spidey and Cap America, a nuke dropped on the X-Men, Wolverine electrocuted, Hulk tranqued and killed after turning back into Banner, the body of Mr. Fantastic found in a dumpster, etc. > > Eventually the title is completely fulfilled in the pages. > > Kinda felt bad for Spider-Man and Daredevil, though I was very satisfied to see the X-Men and the Fantastic Four meet their demise.[/spoiler] > > Now if they would only turn Frank Castle on Catwoman… Is that out in TPB? ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/23 "2004-08-04T01:56:29Z")
Jean Grey gets a Brasilian bikini wax. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/24 "2004-08-04T02:02:15Z")
I’d have liked to see the idea Alan Moore allegedly proposed for a comic, which eventually wound up being done without Moore as _Kingdom Come_. I liked KC, I thought it was pretty cool. But everythings better with more Moore. It’d have been cool to see his _Watchmen_ done with mainstream DC heroes, which I understand was his original plan. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/25 "2004-08-04T02:04:08Z")
And which ASSPD sufferer nixed those ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/26 "2004-08-04T02:06:16Z")
> [@The Asbestos Mango](#): > > And which ASSPD sufferer nixed those ideas? The suits at DC, of course. Supervillains, the lot of them. How do you think John Byrne keeps getting work? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/27 "2004-08-04T02:10:26Z")
Watchmen wasn’t supposed to be done with mainstream DC characters, but with Charleton characters that were absorbed into DC continuity with the Crisis. Dr. Manhatten was Captain Atom, Night Owl was Blue Beetle, Rorschach was The Question. Uh…anyone know who the other characters were supposed to be? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/28 "2004-08-04T02:26:44Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Watchmen wasn’t supposed to be done with mainstream DC characters, but with Charleton characters that were absorbed into DC continuity with the Crisis. > > Dr. Manhatten was Captain Atom, Night Owl was Blue Beetle, Rorschach was The Question. Uh…anyone know who the other characters were supposed to be? Comedian was Peacemaker, and Ozymandais was Thunderbolt. Silk Spectre apparently wasn’t anyone in particular. [Watchmen at Toonipedia.](http://www.toonopedia.com/watchmen.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/29 "2004-08-04T02:32:57Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Is that out in TPB? _Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe_ was a TPB released in '95, now long out of print I’m sure. I don’t know if there is a good internet source to search for such things. A text summary hardly does it justice, but if you are interested there is one [here.](http://www.omgcomics.com/punisher_kills_the_mu.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/30 "2004-08-04T05:58:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’d have liked to see the idea Alan Moore allegedly proposed for a comic, which eventually wound up being done without Moore as _Kingdom Come_. I liked KC, I thought it was pretty cool. But everythings better with more Moore. You mean [Twilight of the Superheroes](http://www.hoboes.com/html/Comics/Twilight/)? Ranchoth (Tarzan, Batman, and The Shadow…sounds like an SNL sketch, doesn’t it?) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/31 "2004-08-04T06:08:25Z")
Just as an aside, the friend who got me into comic books/graphic novels in a big way always and invariably refers to Alan More as “Alan Moore, may he live and write forever, author of _The Watchmen_, may it always be in print.” And I mean every single time he mentions Moore’s name. It’s something on the order of a devout Muslim saying “Mohammed, peace be upon him”. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/32 "2004-08-04T06:12:06Z")
> [@Number Six](#): > > Check out _The Hiketaea_ and _JLA: A League of One_. > > In _A League of One_: > > When she confronts him, he’s prepared for the encounter… > > ] This makes me feel warm inside. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/33 "2004-08-04T08:15:24Z")
> [@The Asbestos Mango](#): > > Just as an aside, the friend who got me into comic books/graphic novels in a big way always and invariably refers to Alan More as “Alan Moore, may he live and write forever, author of _The Watchmen_, may it always be in print.” > > And I mean every single time he mentions Moore’s name. It’s something on the order of a devout Muslim saying “Mohammed, peace be upon him”. Praise be to the Holy Trinity: Moore, Miller, and Gaiman. And praise be to Timm, may his his inkwell runeth over. Ranchoth (Blessed be the inkers?) ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/34 "2004-08-04T23:52:06Z")
> [@The Asbestos Mango](#): > > OK, I have to go scrub my brain, because I’m still having thoughts about licking icing of the Green Arrow. You’re going to scrub your brain? I was planning to dwell on the thought for awhile. Along that line, we may never see an instance where Oliver Queen turns down an opportunity to score with any girl who might let him. I love him, but he’s a dog. A bad, bad dog. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049/35 "2004-08-05T02:30:11Z")
I wanted to see the Midnighter’s and Apollo’s wedding in _The Authority_, but thanks to a bunch of dumb fucks who decided to end the first run in such a piece of shit way, all we get is a two page gloss over with nothing special. _The Authority_ was one of my favorite comics, and the last issue of the first volume was such a HUGE dissappointment. I don’t like the new run. I’ve always wanted to see telekenetics in the Marvel universe do something useful. For the most part, all they do in a battle is block laser blasts with force fields and hit people with tk blasts, but whatever happened to the ability to, oh, I don’t know…break someone’s legs at a thought, or snap a guys neck, or pull a couple of arteries out of one’s heart. So many ways to actually bring down a huge opponent, but the majority of the time, they just end up having a strong opponent walk up and smack them around. I’ve only seen Jean do one really cool thing (made a bunch of U-Men vomit in their costumes then eat it again), but outside of that, they seem to be friggin’ useless. What I really want, what I really, _really_ want is for when Wolverine finally finds out the “truth” of his origins, someone to show up and say “Actually, that’s how Jim over there came about, your origin is still a mystery…” _Origins_ was the dumbest fucking thing that ever happened in Marvel (and they’ve done a lot of stupid shit). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-moments-which-sadly-you-will-never-see-possible-spoilage/258049.md?page=1)