# Comic book writer Warren Ellis a Doper?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 3, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374 "2005-11-03T23:40:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374/21 "2005-11-04T17:45:16Z")

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> [@Phase42](#):
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> I must wonder if comic book writer Warren Ellis is a Doper.

Mmmmm, could be, shiteyes.

😉

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374/22 "2005-11-04T18:05:40Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> I remember hearing “you’ll be wearin’ your ass for a hat” a LONG time ago, but I don’t remember when or where.

I seem to remember a scene in the first **City Slickers** , where Daniel Stern’s character gets a little googly-eyed at Helen Slater’s single hottie character and Bruno Kirby tells him to walk up to her and tell her that he’d like to wear her ass for a hat - or something thereabouts…

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**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374/23 "2005-11-04T18:27:03Z")

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I first heard the phrase “asshat” back in 2002 on the new Twilight Zone series.

“Romeo and Juliet killed themselves because they were asshats.”

So no, I don’t think it’s an invention of this board, though I do get a kick out of the username **Ass for a Hat**.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374/24 "2005-11-05T14:13:38Z")

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I had a good chuckle last night thinking about this thread. I couldn’t sleep so I was watching some TV. The only thing on was a That 70s Show marathon on FX.

I was watching an episode and saw in the credits that the show has a producer named _Cecil_ **y** Adams!

I laughed and thought, “AHA! CECIL has infilitrated the operation in drag in order to insert the phrase ASSHAT!”

But alas, her [IMDB BIO](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010820/) reveals she is the late Don Adams daughter.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374/25 "2005-11-05T16:44:29Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> I seem to remember a scene in the first **City Slickers** , where Daniel Stern’s character gets a little googly-eyed at Helen Slater’s single hottie character and Bruno Kirby tells him to walk up to her and tell her that he’d like to wear her ass for a hat - or something thereabouts…

Earlier cite: _The Outlaw Josey Wales_ (1976). The exchange is near the beginning of the film, as I recall: the Union soldiers are trying to organize the Rebels they had captured. The Rebels are fractious and the Union soldier’s rejoinder is, “You’d best be (can’t remember), else you’ll be wearin’ your ass for a hat.”

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-book-writer-warren-ellis-a-doper/329374/26 "2005-11-05T20:28:43Z")

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When I was a kid, I read a story by a World War 2 vintage author (I think Robert Heinlein) in which the phrase “brass-hatted stupidity” was used. If this was a case of a writer using an innocuous term that sounded almost like an obscene term, then I think the phrase is probably much older.

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