# Comic Con "zombies" attack deaf family's car **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 28, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240 "2014-07-28T14:09:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/81 "2014-08-01T13:56:47Z")
Drivers having to yield to pedestrians is a pretty safe bet in most vehicle/pedestrian interaction. And since this situation involved an already-stopped car, any discussion of exceptions is doubly irrelevant. Perhaps even malarky. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/82 "2014-08-01T16:26:18Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > I seriously believe: > > 1. You posted California info, I posted Georgia. No conflict what-so-ever. > 2. My post did not attempt to refute anything you said, regardless o fthe words included in the quote. > 3. I never said you posted anything wrong, incorrect, stretched, or otherwise > 4. You’re obsessing over nothing > 5. I’m done. Sigh. The problem is you quoted Monty in a way that made it seem like you were contradicting what he/she said and then a few posts later your “You/Me” paraphrase was inaccurate. I suspect you didn’t get Rick’s garibaldi fish reference that Monty originally quoted. I didn’t and had to look it up. The garibaldi is the state fish of CA and so it’s protected. My impression is that CA has a reputation for being overly protective of pedestrians and Monty was clarifying that they “don’t always have the right of way.” In your quote you said “In Georgia, pedestrian right-of-way is real,” which seems to imply that Monty’s post indicated that it isn’t real in CA. But nothing in Monty’s post indicated that. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/83 "2014-08-01T16:49:26Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > In California pedestrians are like Garbaldi fish. They’re small, orange, and they poo in the sea? ---
**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/84 "2014-08-01T17:18:23Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > In most states no one ever _has_ the right of way; the law may require you to yield it. And it usually requires a driver to yield to a pedestrian even if the pedestrian is crossing illegally. I suspect this is the case. It’s what I learned from my Mother, a lawyer in MI, as a learning driver, but it might not be factual. Regardless, it’s good policy. > [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > Mmh. It’s Vitality-Challenged People, if you don’t mind. In “In The Flesh” they call it “partially deceased.” 🙂 > [@garygnu](#): > > While the driver has little to stand on in an official defense, plenty in that crowd were being jerks. Some acted in a manner that could be interpreted as threatening. I figure the driver thought he was fleeing rather than plowing through. Doesn’t make him not guilty, nor less of a jerk himself. > > I wonder what sort of invincibility the crowd thought they possessed. I don’t care what the law says about right of way, when you’re on foot get the fuck out of the way of cars, especially angry cars. Proving a point to the asshole honking isn’t worth life and limb. That’s how I read it. Fools on both sides. > [@Monty](#): > > Glad you’re done with that load of garbage. Take a chill pill, Monty. While his post may have seemed to imply a contradiction of yours, it wasn’t, and he said it wasn’t, and you should have let it go at that. All the “garbage” was from you. Just my perspective as an innocent bystander; take it or leave it. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/85 "2014-08-01T17:21:04Z")
> [@Learjeff](#): > > In “In The Flesh” they call it “partially deceased.” 🙂 Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there’s usually only one thing you can do. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/86 "2014-08-01T17:44:36Z")
It’s not that often you get to see multiple videos of an event, and then see how “the story” gets told. by different eye witnesses, newspapers, and of course, the internet. \*\*Dramatic moment car hits woman on Comic Con ‘zombie walk’ breaking her arm before crowd chases down driver and smashes his windshield \*\* Read more: [Comic Con zombie walk crowd chase down driver after woman struck by car | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707581/Comic-Con-zombie-walk-turns-chaos-crowd-goes-berserk-woman-struck-car.html#ixzz39ABd2CSC) **Deaf Driver Plows through crowd during Zombie Walk** > **[KFI AM 640 - The News. What It Means, Why It Matters.](https://kfiam640.iheart.com/)** > > More stimulating talk and news radio in Los Angeles and Orange County. Listen to Jennifer Jones Lee on Wake Up Call, Bill Handel Morning Show, Gary and Shannon, John and Ken, Tim Conway Jr, Coast to Coast AM, KFI News and more on KFI AM 640! **Woman, 64, Struck by Car Amid ‘Zombie Walk’ Near Comic-Con** > **[Woman, 64, Struck by Car Amid ‘Zombie Walk’ Near Comic-Con](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/woman-64-struck-by-car-amid-zombie-walk-near-comic-con/)** > > A 64-year-old woman suffered serious arm injuries when she was struck by a car amid a “zombie walk” that was held Saturday near the San Diego Convention Center, site of Comic-Con International 2014… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/87 "2014-08-01T19:51:31Z")
> [@Learjeff](#): > > Take a chill pill, Monty. I am “chill”. > [@](#): > > While his post may have seemed to imply a contradiction of yours, it wasn’t, and he said it wasn’t, and you should have let it go at that. All the “garbage” was from you. Just my perspective as an innocent bystander; take it or leave it. You are mistaken and I shall leave it. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/88 "2014-08-01T20:17:30Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there’s usually only one thing you can do. What’s that? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/89 "2014-08-01T21:15:35Z")
It’s from “A Princess Bride” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/90 "2014-08-01T21:46:42Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It’s from “A Princess Bride” Dude… Princess Fail. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/91 "2014-08-01T22:03:44Z")
No kidding. I TRY to be the straight guy, and then this happens. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/92 "2014-08-01T22:39:03Z")
Have fun storming the castle! ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/93 "2014-08-03T10:55:36Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > You come to a complete stop, there’s a crowd of people passing in front of you, people appear to be tapping on your windows, people appear to be talking at you, some asshole(s) sit on your car. Assuming you’re one of the dozens of people in the universe who’s life doesn’t revolve around Comic Con and therefore have no idea why this crowd is there or why they are dressed in such a bizarre manner, is it possible that a deaf driver, or a hearing (non-deaf) driver, could panic and step on the accelerator to get away from the perceived danger? What kind of grown man sees a group of nerds, some of whom are dressed up, wandering around in the street in broad daylight, clearly participating in some kind of event, as some kind of threat that it’s worth endangering others’ lives over? Is he from Florida? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/94 "2014-08-03T16:12:11Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > What kind of grown man sees a group of nerds, some of whom are dressed up, wandering around in the street in broad daylight, clearly participating in some kind of event, as some kind of threat that it’s worth endangering others’ lives over? Is he from Florida? One who is confused and possibly frightened by the actions directed towards himself and his family, by some of the people in the crowd? Did the driver then panic when he thought his family was under attack? The driver is partially (mostly) responsible because he was, or should have been, in control of his vehicle. I hold blue shirt partially responsible because he chose to take an already tense situation and made it worse by attacking an occupied vehicle. _Ha Ha Ha. What fun. People are paying attention to me because I think I’m hilarious. HEY, THE CAR IS MOVING! And someone was hurt! What did I do wrong?_ :smack: Could someone in the crowd have realized that the crowd was mindlessly blocking the roadway? MoooOOO. Was the crowd too stupid to figure out how to allow the three blocked vehicles pass? I guess so. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/95 "2014-08-03T16:42:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > One who is confused and possibly frightened by the actions directed towards himself and his family, by some of the people in the crowd? Did the driver then panic when he thought his family was under attack? > > The driver is partially (mostly) responsible because he was, or should have been, in control of his vehicle. I hold blue shirt partially responsible because he chose to take an already tense situation and made it worse by attacking an occupied vehicle. _Ha Ha Ha. What fun. People are paying attention to me because I think I’m hilarious. HEY, THE CAR IS MOVING! And someone was hurt! What did I do wrong?_ :smack: > > Could someone in the crowd have realized that the crowd was mindlessly blocking the roadway? MoooOOO. Was the crowd too stupid to figure out how to allow the three blocked vehicles pass? I guess so. I don’t know. Maybe there were still some late zombie walkers and the people decided that allowing a car in was too dangerous for them. That’s the only thing I can think of to explain it. In any case, the driver got in there and tried to nudge people out of the way with the car. If people reacts badly to that, that’s hardly confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/96 "2014-08-03T18:49:12Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Guy in orange shirt, at drivers door, clearly tries to open door, right before car takes off. That’s a clear threat, driver should take off. But not run over people. Unless they are blocking car, in which case, somebody is trying to enter your car, protect family. . > > It’s fucked up Guy in orange shirt taps on window twice at :16, reaches down to scratch himself at :22. He never reaches for the car door handle. IMO, the driver intended to get thru that intersection, no matter what. Note that when the video starts the rear driver’s side window is down and is quickly rolled up; IMO that happened because someone anticipated a confrontation and was erecting defensive barriers. You can also see the rickshaw driver shouting at the car to stop for the parade as the video begins. I hope this driver is found guilty and sentenced to being run over by a car four or five times as punishment, with his medical care being his own responsibility. “Being afraid” is not a _Get Out Of Jail Free_ card. Reasonable people are not in fear for their lives at every little noise, gesture or even confrontation. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/97 "2014-08-03T18:50:16Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I’m not sure it’s that cut and dried. There was a crowd in a crosswalk. He wanted through the intersection. He wanted them out of his way. After ten minutes he started honking and inching forward. People then started yelling, banging on the car, and sitting on the hood. He then plowed through the people in front of him. “Ten minutes”? it wasn’t even ten seconds that he waited. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/98 "2014-08-03T19:32:31Z")
It’s always interesting to see how the exact same video clip is viewed in completely different ways. It’s why eyewitness testimony is so terrible in court. Even with a video of the entire event, nobody can actually say “this is what happened”. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/99 "2014-08-03T19:36:07Z")
I can say this with certainty. The old lady who was injured, was standing (not walking) in the middle of an intersection. Not in a crosswalk. Both the injured party, and the woman she was talking with, they were standing and talking, not moving. Along with much of the other odd behaviors, it certainly seems it was mob influenced. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240/100 "2014-08-03T20:51:55Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I can say this with certainty. The old lady who was injured, was standing (not walking) in the middle of an intersection. Not in a crosswalk. Both the injured party, and the woman she was talking with, they were standing and talking, not moving. Along with much of the other odd behaviors, it certainly seems it was mob influenced. People standing in an intersection is an “odd behavior” when there is a street festival or parade-type event going on? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-con-zombies-attack-deaf-familys-car/694240.md?page=6)