# Comic geeks- Why a Spiderman reboot already!?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 9, 2012, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249 "2012-03-09T10:27:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/21 "2012-03-09T21:47:22Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> This will probably be a dumb, sacrilegious question but why didn’t they toss Spiderman into the upcoming \*Avengers \*supergroup movie as a better way to reboot it? Rights again?

Yes. The _Avengers_ movie(s) are being done under Marvel’s control. Sony is still doing the new Spider-Man movie. While Sony has the rights, Marvel can’t use Spider-Man in their _Avengers_ franchise.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/22 "2012-03-09T22:35:52Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> This will probably be a dumb, sacrilegious question but why didn’t they toss Spiderman into the upcoming \*Avengers \*supergroup movie as a better way to reboot it? Rights again?

Rights may have something to do with it, but more simply, Spidey was never part of the Avengers.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/23 "2012-03-09T23:01:31Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> DC wants to do the same. They tried for strong movies… and got _Superman Reurns_ and _Green Lantern_. They put Amanda Waller in _Green Lantern_ to lay groundwork for an overarching continuity… but it was unfortunately in _Green Lantern_.

I brought that up over in the Green Lantern thread a while back. As a DC fan in general and a GL fan in particular, I was utterly baffled by the decision to _introduce_ her in that movie. She would have made more sense showing up in one of the Batman films. She would make even more sense appearing in certain other characters’ movies, but those movies haven’t been made yet. And of course, the other problem is that Waller isn’t nearly as prominent in the DC universe as Nick Fury is in the Marvel universe.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/24 "2012-03-09T23:07:31Z")

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> [@FlyingDragonFan](#):
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> That could have been awesome.

Iiiiiiiii jsut don’t see it. Kingsley can make almost anything good, but the Vulture is one of Spidey’s least interesting villains. By far.

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/25 "2012-03-09T23:23:40Z")

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Wait, _Superman Returns_ was pretty good? I thought it just edged out _Superman 4_ and _Supergirl_. What superhero movies sucked then?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/26 "2012-03-09T23:30:33Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> Rights may have something to do with it, but more simply, Spidey was never part of the Avengers.

Spider-Man has been an Avenger since 2005.

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**Author:** ![Rubixcube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rubixcube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubixcube)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/27 "2012-03-10T00:23:02Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> Rights may have something to do with it, but more simply, Spidey was never part of the Avengers.

He was a member of the New Avengers, and from Heroic Age until Fear Itself . It’s purely a rights thing, only characters who’s film rights are still under Marvel’s control are part of the film continuity.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/28 "2012-03-10T01:36:05Z")

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> [@Rubixcube](#):
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> It’s purely a rights thing, only characters who’s film rights are still under Marvel’s control are part of the film continuity.

Yes. Sony has Spider-Man, and Fox has X-Men, I believe. Some hobo has The Fantastic Four judging by the quality of those movies. Damn shame to waste Dr. Doom like that. We could see Namor as either an antagonist or member in a future Avengers flick though.

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comic-geeks-why-a-spiderman-reboot-already/615249/29 "2012-03-10T04:17:47Z")

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Whoever had Dare Devil also has Kingpin, otherwise, he could have appeared in Spider-Man.

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