# Commentator says W should make himself president-for-life, & colonize Iraq

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 14, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586 "2007-08-14T18:46:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/21 "2007-08-14T20:41:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
You pretty much nead civilization for mass genocide and dictatorship. I mean, that sort of stuff doesn’t just happen…it takes work.  
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Yeah, I thought about that, and I suppose all civilizations are built on mass murder on some level. Still, I find his notions somewhat distasteful.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/22 "2007-08-14T20:44:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
I get into arguments on other message boards with people who are as bad or worse on an occasional basis. And yes, there are worse; at least he didn’t argue for killing ever single person outside the borders of America, or go the kill-the-whole-world route like some of the Christian Rapture believers.

Nuke the evil Ay-rabs isn’t that uncommon a sentiment, as far as I can tell.  
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Your notion that all of our soldiers there should be killed isn’t exactly a common sentiment as far as I can tell either, but it doesn’t cause me to think ill of you.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/23 "2007-08-14T20:53:10Z")

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Clearly, the article does not go far enough. To get rid of Islamic terrorism, you must get rid of all followers of Islam. So the US must:

(1) Bomb all countries with a majority Muslim population. What does it matter if you kill a few Christians, Hindus, etc.: it’s their fault for living with those nasty Muslims.

(2) Find all the Muslims in the US, and send them to prison camps, unless they renounce Islam and become good Christians. (Because we know that Christians are civilised and never practice terrorism).

(3) Tell the other countries with Muslim minorities (like Britain, France, Russia and China) that they have to do the same, or the US will bomb them until they do the right thing.

There’s no point in taking half measures in these things. If you just bomb Iraq into submission, you’ll leave Muslims everywhere else who might become terrorists. You’ve got to stop them before they get any ideas like that.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/24 "2007-08-14T20:53:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
Your notion that all of our soldiers there should be killed isn’t exactly a common sentiment as far as I can tell either, but it doesn’t cause me to think ill of you.  
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It doesn’t? It causes me to think quite ill of him.

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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/25 "2007-08-14T21:01:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Struan]  
The guy, ummm, has issues.  
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Please, the guy has back issues

[QUOTE= Plynck]  
And just how far should he take this mimicry? Giving the State of the Union from the Forum in a toga while surrounded by honorable men?  
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Would that he could find honorable men willing to surround him. Without pitchforks and iron bars, I mean

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
This is stuff that would give Anne “Kill All Their Leaders and Convert Them to Christianity” Coulter the heebie-jeebies.  
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As if.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/26 "2007-08-14T21:02:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
It doesn’t? It causes me to think quite ill of him.  
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I just wish I could forget I ever heard it.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/27 "2007-08-14T21:12:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
It doesn’t? It causes me to think quite ill of him.  
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I causes me to think he’s ill.

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**Author:** ![Paladud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Paladud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paladud)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/28 "2007-08-14T21:25:33Z")

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The guy is clearly discussing a Civilization IV mod.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/29 "2007-08-14T22:10:06Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
I ain’t moving to Iraq. Texas is hot enough for me thankyouverymuch.  
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(singsong)

All the oil you can driiiiink!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/30 "2007-08-14T22:13:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
I get into arguments on other message boards with people who are as bad or worse on an occasional basis.  
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So do the folks you argue with.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/31 "2007-08-14T22:44:56Z")

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Dude, that article is so obviously a parody. The “real” meaning of it is that Dick Cheney thinks we should kill children and feed them to the rich.

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/32 "2007-08-14T22:50:16Z")

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> [@Struan](#):
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> Here is a self-penned bio from his own website. The guy, ummm, has issues.

Oh _thank you!_ Thank you so much, that was comedy gold!

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While they were all larger than me, I found they only presented a threat as a group. Alone, they not only left me in peace, but seemed a little nervous at my presence. And in games that required strategy, I found it was easy to best them. My esteem for my peers became replaced by contempt, and planted the seed of suspicion in my mind that my whole community was of the same calibre —foolish cowards. A notion that experience rarely confounded but often confirmed, so insensibly I became a social exile.

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I love this. I wanna be compassionate, but it’s like reading the autobiography of a Bond Villain. You can just picture him sitting in his dinky little council flat on a plastic mat dressed up in blue dungarees with a little propellor hat, plotting world destruction 🙂

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/33 "2007-08-14T22:59:44Z")

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[QUOTE=George Kaplin]  
I love this. I wanna be compassionate, but it’s like reading the autobiography of a Bond Villain. You can just picture him sitting in his dinky little council flat on a plastic mat dressed up in blue dungarees with a little propellor hat, plotting world destruction 🙂  
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It’s worse than that…it’s like reading the autobiography of a Doper. 😃

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/34 "2007-08-14T23:28:28Z")

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Here’s my question: if Bush did do what the writer advocates, what’d be the point of “bring[ing] sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court”? If he was able to do all that, both institutions would become powerless and redundant. Did the writer just not think this through? Does he have a completely different conception of what a President (or even a President for Life) can do than the rest of us?

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/35 "2007-08-14T23:28:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Plynck]  
And just how far should he take this mimicry? Giving the State of the Union from the Forum in a toga while surrounded by honorable men?

I have mixed feelings…  
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Well, the toga would be comedic gold (we’ve already seen one joke with the whole sober thing) and the honorable men would be an improvement over Congress, so I’m somewhat conflicted too.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think it’s weird that this guy likes to talk about civilization while advocating mass genocide and dictatorship. He doesn’t sound like a civilization fan.

Are you kidding me? Winning Civilization is all about mass genocide and dictatorship.

Now, if Bush lives 6000 years, then we’ve got problems.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/36 "2007-08-15T01:39:40Z")

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If we’re going to start a Pit thread every time someone finds someone writing something insane on the Internet, we’ll have no room for any other sort of thread. Who cares what some wingnut’s writing on the 'net?

I mean, it’s even more useless than a “I hate Fred Phelps” thread. A HUNDRED times more useless.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/37 "2007-08-15T01:56:49Z")

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[QUOTE=asterion]  
Are you kidding me? Winning Civilization is all about mass genocide and dictatorship.  
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Ain’t that the damned truth. Communism demands too many police, and the war weariness under Democracy just sucks ass.  
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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/38 "2007-08-15T02:56:26Z")

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This plan seems poorly thought out. In particluar, I question the wisdom of colonizing a nation after you have sterilized it with nuclear weapons. I submit that this demonstrates a certain lack of forethought.

I do, however, agree with the writer that Bush should declare himself President-for-Life of America. That would be great.

Even better, he should declare himself President-for-Life of Iraq. They would love it. He could make the declaration in that big plaza where the statue of Saddam Hussein was pulled down. It would be symbolic. He could even wear his flight suit if he wanted to. They could have a parade.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/39 "2007-08-15T07:36:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
Your notion that all of our soldiers there should be killed isn’t exactly a common sentiment as far as I can tell either,  
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Depends on where you ask. The people who we are actually killing and abusing have a rather different opinion than the Americans who go on and on about how “noble” and “self sacrificing” our murderers in uniform are.

But then they aren’t Americans, so I guess they aren’t human enough to have opinions.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commentator-says-w-should-make-himself-president-for-life-colonize-iraq/415586/40 "2007-08-15T12:35:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Terrifel]  
It would be symbolic. He could even wear his flight suit if he wanted to. They could have a parade.  
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Under his toga? I think this is an idea with legs. Bush for President of Iraq. Or maybe “Bush/Cheney for Iraq!”

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