# Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863 "2005-09-22T11:19:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/241 "2005-09-24T05:25:05Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I simply do not see the evidence that **Liberal** is deliberately trying to hijack threads or stir up anger on the board, particularly with the intention of portraying himself as a martyr. Who gives a shit? If banning were about perfect justice and fair trials, then most who have been banned had never been so. So, the disruptive force called **Liberal** is allowed to disrupt the board 5x worse than the typical banned poster because he doesn’t _mean to be naughty_? What a load that is. He is perhaps the most justifiably despised poster this board has ever had. Does anyone else have more pittings? Whether he has the “intention” or not, he does. And I know he’s reading every word of this. Fuk yoo, **Liberal**! ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/242 "2005-09-24T05:56:39Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Yes, you _do_ have the right. I can’t say that I blame you. That would be my impulse. And that would be **Lib’s** impulse. And that’s why **Lib** is not doing this by himself. You also have the right to choose not to let someone jerk your chain. No, of course not. I should just let him say whatever the fuck he wants and be the bigger person. Well, squash that noise. He posted stupid shit and I called him on it. I don’t hold my tongue. Especially not for whiny, paranoid crybabies. > [@Zoe](#): > > He has the power to make you call him by his old name? You are going to blame him for the words you type on your keyboard? Don’t be silly. He has the power of the whiny complaint. The power to get YOU banned if you dare call him **Libertarian**. > [@Zoe](#): > > Why are you giving away so much of your control over yourself? Um, huh? I have perfect control over myself. Just because I feel like being sarcastic and flippant in response to being accused of-- lemme see-- planning Lib’s demise doesn’t mean I don’t have control over myself. But wait! Maybe you’re right **Zoe**. Maybe I should just let Lib talk shit about me, annoy the living piss out of me, control the way the board is administrated and not say a goddamned word about it! Yeah, I’ll take the high road and suffer in silence! Because **Zoe** said! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/243 "2005-09-24T06:23:38Z")
I would like to make clear that my complaints are about the management’s treatment of Lib, not him. He’s a jerk and having a bad upbringing or a sad life or any of the other excuses made for him do not excuse his actions, but I still culdn’t care less about said actions. My beef is with the double standard obvious in the administration’s treatment of him. Feel free to ban me for stating it, or how I stated it (despite the forum), but I ask that you start treating him like you treat the rest of us. If he sets himself up for abuse then he should expect abuse. If he is going to live a lie on this board through his choice of user name then let us call him on it. He made his bed so let the chickens come home to sleep in it. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/244 "2005-09-24T07:06:54Z")
> [@](#): > > **Biggirl** : I should just let him say whatever the fuck he wants and be the bigger person. The first half of that quote you don’t have any control over. _You_ don’t **let** him do or say anything. That’s up to **Lib** , the mods and administration. Your choice comes in with whether or not you choose to “be the bigger person.” I’m not the one who picked your name. Maybe you need to speak up for yourself; I don’t know. (I do know that it is the arguments back and forth that form the hijacks that tear apart the threads.) Meanwhile, no one is responsible for the words that I use here except me. The same is true for you and the words you use. “See What You Made Me Do” is a child’s game. > [@](#): > > Maybe you’re right Zoe. Maybe I should just let Lib talk shit about me, annoy the living piss out of me, control the way the board is administrated and not say a goddamned word about it! Yeah, I’ll take the high road and suffer in silence! Because Zoe said! I said nothing about remaining silent or suffering. I suggested that you not give **Lib** so much power over you. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/245 "2005-09-24T07:52:03Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Who gives a shit? If banning were about perfect justice and fair trials, then most who have been banned had never been so. > > So, the disruptive force called **Liberal** is allowed to disrupt the board 5x worse than the typical banned poster because he doesn’t _mean to be naughty_? What a load that is. He is perhaps the most justifiably despised poster this board has ever had. Does anyone else have more pittings? > > Whether he has the “intention” or not, he does. And I know he’s reading every word of this. Fuk yoo, **Liberal**! If you can show just exactly how this “disruptive force” works his voodoo so that everything stops when he appears, yet idiots can wander through religious threads making rather dumb anti-religious comments and other idiots can wander through scientific threads making truly idiotic religious comments and clowns can tramp all over political threads making morons look brilliant and none of those people have the power to disrupt the board, then you might persuade me that we need to “do something” about **Liberal**. What I continue to see in this thread are claims that he has a magic power to be disruptive. (I am also beginning to see some whining that he gets special treatment, although in nine months of Moderating I notice that I am not bombarded with reports complaining about his behavior.) Basically, the argument seems to be that it is the duty of the staff to save you folks from your own inability to withhold responses to posts that you think are irritating. I am willing to stipulate that **Liberal** is often hard to understand. I am willing to stipulate that he has a mean temper and that he sometimes lashes out at people out of proportion to their perceived offense. I am willing to stipulate that he has portrayed himself as a martyr on several occasions. (And I _had_ forgotten the thread to which **ETF** provided a link, but that one was pretty odd, even for **Lib**.) So? I can think of several posters in this thread who have been taken to task for posting (perceived) gibberish. There are several posters in this thread with deserved reputations for overreacting to perceived slights. Everyone that claims that they simply cannot resist feeding his “hijacks” is playing the role of martyr. I make no claim that **Lib** is an ideal poster. I do not claim that he has not earned the anger directed against him. I am not, however, going to recommend banning based on the notion that some loud contingent of posters does not like him. Wander back through this thread. The condemnation of **Lib** does not approach unanimity. **Lib** , like a number of posters, is a lightning rod for strong feelings, but if that is the justification for throwing someone out, several of his detractors would find themselves bouncing on the pavement alongside him. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/246 "2005-09-24T12:04:47Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I simply do not see the evidence that **Liberal** is deliberately trying to hijack threads or stir up anger on the board, particularly with the intention of portraying himself as a martyr. Change the underlined word slightly and tighten up the sentence: do you see evidence that he knowingly hijacks threads and stirs up anger? I agree that there’s not much evidence that he does it deliberately, but it seems obvious that he does it knowingly. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/247 "2005-09-24T12:42:23Z")
Actually, I think it’s only fair for me to observe that I’ve not had any beef at all with **Lib** since his return. I hope he continues to post with the moderation and restraint he’s currently showing; if he does, I’ll have no problem with him at all. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/248 "2005-09-24T14:44:20Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > The first half of that quote you don’t have any control over. _You_ don’t **let** him do or say anything. That’s up to **Lib** , the mods and administration. Lib had a special rule made just for him. Because he’s a whiner. I’d say that’s a special power. A power he has over you. > [@](#): > > Your choice comes in with whether or not you choose to “be the bigger person.” I’m not the one who picked your name. Ha! Ha! funny joke-- because my name is Biggirl and I said “bigger person”-- ha, ha. Hahaha. . . .anyway, I see where we come to our major disagreement. You think not voicing you displeasure at silly posters and special rules is noble. I think suffering in silence makes you a sucker. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. > [@](#): > > Maybe you need to speak up for yourself; I don’t know. (I do know that it is the arguments back and forth that form the hijacks that tear apart the threads.) > > Meanwhile, no one is responsible for the words that I use here except me. The same is true for you and the words you use. “See What You Made Me Do” is a child’s game. Again, don’t be silly. I’m not arguing that Lib can make you say his name. I’m arguing that Lib’s complaining can now get you banned if you do. You do see the difference, don’t you? > [@Zoe](#): > > I said nothing about remaining silent or suffering. I suggested that you not give **Lib** so much power over you. Again, Lib can do whatever the hell he likes. It’s when he gets to make the rules that I’ll bitch. And will continue to do so with or without your approval. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/249 "2005-09-24T15:08:48Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Lib had a special rule made just for him. [No, he didn’t](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=197343&highlight=lynn73). ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/250 "2005-09-24T15:14:20Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [No, he didn’t](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=197343&highlight=lynn73). There’s a quote in there of manhattan _joking_ about such a rule. It was Lib’s whining that made it not so much a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/251 "2005-09-24T15:19:39Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > There’s a quote in there of manhattan _joking_ about such a rule. It was Lib’s whining that made it not so much a joke. Yeah, but it’s not a special rule just for him. The seed had already been planted, he just fertilized it. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/252 "2005-09-24T15:35:30Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Yeah, but it’s not a special rule just for him. The seed had already been planted, he just fertilized it. True dat. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/253 "2005-09-24T16:06:30Z")
He is good at fertilizing, isn’t he? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Feydeau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Feydeau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feydeau)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/254 "2005-09-24T17:38:22Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > He is good at fertilizing, isn’t he? 🙂 There’s a lot of that particular talent on this board. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/255 "2005-09-24T17:42:07Z")
> [@](#): > > **Biggirl** : Lib had a special rule made just for him. Because he’s a whiner. I’d say that’s a special power. A power he has over you. Even if the rule _had_ originated with **Lib** , it means nothing to me. I give it no importance. Why should I? > [@](#): > > I think suffering in silence makes you a sucker. But I’m not suffering. I think that it would be terrible if you are. > [@](#): > > I’m arguing that Lib’s complaining can now get you banned if you do. You do see the difference, don’t you? No one has been banned because of **Lib’s** complaints. People are banned only because they break the rules that are very clearly stated. Do you have any examples that support your claim otherwise? > [@](#): > > Again, Lib can do whatever the hell he likes. It’s when he gets to make the rules that I’ll bitch. And will continue to do so with or without your approval. **Lib** doesn’t get to make the rules so far. Nor do you or I. My intention was never to approve or disapprove of your “bitching.” Remember that I have acknowledged your right to respond from the beginning. I regret that you inferred anything different from what I said. I am not in control of you anymore than **Lib** is. (At last we agree!) There _are_ accusations that I usually respond to myself. But they have become fewer over time. I give less and less importance to what others say about me and that has been rather empowering. I brought all of this up in this thread only because the responses to **Lib’s** comments are part of the hijacks. He can’t hijack without cooperation from others. I have no further comment for the time being, but I wish you well. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/256 "2005-09-24T20:23:23Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Even if the rule _had_ originated with **Lib** , it means nothing to me. I give it no importance. Why should I? Yeah, but this isn’t about _you_, is it? You’re trying to tell me how I should react when people piss me off and accuse me of nonsense. Since it is of no importance to _you_, then I should ignore it? Is that what your point is? > [@](#): > > But I’m not suffering. I think that it would be terrible if you are. Well no, I’m not suffering. I’m getting my own back. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you. Maybe instead of telling me how I should react to getting my chain jerked, you should be telling the jerker to stop being such a jerk. And this holier-than-thou attitude you got going is pretty irritating too. I don’t like it. I thought you should know. I suffer not at all when I get shit like this off of my chest. > [@](#): > > No one has been banned because of **Lib’s** complaints. People are banned only because they break the rules that are very clearly stated. Do you have any examples that support your claim otherwise? Have you been reading this thread? The administration has said that anyone can get banned for calling Lib “libertarian”. I gotta wait until they do it before I can say this is stupid? > [@](#): > > **Lib** doesn’t get to make the rules so far. Nor do you or I. He certainly does "make the rules’ if threads are moved on his whiny say so. And that’s what I was pitting. It happened. I didn’t like it. I made a pit thread. > [@](#): > > My intention was never to approve or disapprove of your “bitching.” Remember that I have acknowledged your right to respond from the beginning. I regret that you inferred anything different from what I said. I am not in control of you anymore than **Lib** is. (At last we agree!) “You have the right to choose not to let some one jerk your chain.” Sounds like a very long-winded and circular way of saying, “Learn to like getting your chain jerked.” Maybe you can explain to me what you meant by it. > [@](#): > > There _are_ accusations that I usually respond to myself. But they have become fewer over time. I give less and less importance to what others say about me and that has been rather empowering. That’s nice how you’ve come to terms with letting people talk shit about you. I’m happy for you. Really. And I do understand about letting some shit slide. It’s just not up to _you_ to decide what I let slide and what I don’t. > [@](#): > > I brought all of this up in this thread only because the responses to **Lib’s** comments are part of the hijacks. He can’t hijack without cooperation from others. > I have no further comment for the time being, but I wish you well. Don’t let me jerk your chain, sweetie. And thanks for the well wishes. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/257 "2005-09-24T20:49:59Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [No, he didn’t](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=197343&highlight=lynn73). In a way, [yes,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5073288&postcount=177)[he](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5048163&postcount=21)[did,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5073367&postcount=179) though it was couched as falling under the “trolling” rule. However, **Liberal** likes pointing people directly to the “ruling” as though it pertains directly to him. (Coloring for emphasis, mine.) > [@](#): > > _by **Liberal** _ > > Coldfire > > While you are here, will you please ask Desmostylus to use my correct username or else my nickname “Lib”, **as per Veb’s ruling** here? > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...63&postcount=21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...63&postcount=21) > > I have asked him before, and have referred him to the same post. > [@](#): > > _by **TVeblen** _ > > **Mod note:** > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by **lissener** > > Since his **subsequent behavior** \* has left me with the impression that he’s dishonestly trying to whitewash his past–and not with an eye toward better behavior in the future–I, personally, will refer to him as **Liberal** everywhere else on these boards, but will continue to refer to him as **Libertarian** in Pit threads. I refuse to support his whitewashing. > > > > Mostly because he’s an asshole. (\* emphasis added–Veb) > > Your current behavior leaves me with the distinct impression your acting like a jerk, **lissener**. I don’t know–or care–what your past or present opinions of Lib are as a poster. I don’t know–or care–whether you agree with his reasons for changing his screen name. The fact is, he did. > **If you insist on referring to him by his old screen name, that’s deliberately stirring shit, i.e. trolling. And we don’t tolerate it, so consider yourself warned.** You aren’t the self-appointed intelligencer of the board, responsible for informing all and sundry of past experiences with a poster. > If your dundgeon won’t extend to referring to him by his real screen name, I fail to see why you can’t just use his long-standing nickname: **Lib**. > Knock if off, already. It isn’t like we lack enough controversey. > > TVeblen, > Pit mod > [@](#): > > _by **Coldfire** _ > > **Moderator Notes** > > Well, shit. You’ve got me on the fence, **Lib**. I’d say **lissener** brought **Veb** ’s ire onto himself when he openly stated that he deliberately would call you **Libertarian** in the Pit. I think she was right in slapping him around a bit for that. Now, we’ve got **Demostylus** performing a watered down version: a _combination_ of the old and the new name. > > Part of me thinks altering usernames in order to get people riled up is childish. > > Another part of me thinks that your specific user name change was SO political, that it’s only to be expected that people will call you on it. Especially since you don’t really come across as particularly liberal, at least not to me. > > Yet another part of me thinks this whole repeated running-to-the-teacher-when-the-other-kids-tease-you thing is extremely petty, especially for something as trivial as this. But that’s just me being jaded, I’m sure. > > I suppose **given the precedent** , I have little choice. **Demostylus** , please refer to **Liberal** by his proper username, or the abbreviation **Lib**. Thanks for your cooperation. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/258 "2005-09-24T21:36:14Z")
> [@](#): > > The administration has said that anyone can get banned for calling Lib “libertarian”. Not exactly. **dropzone** and **TVeblen** had a specific exchange in which banning was raised, although it is unclear whether the referenced potential banning was for the use of the old name or for general hostility. One of the warnings that **lissener** accumulated was in regards to his persistent use of **Lib** ’s old name. (As far as I know, **Coldy** ’s admonition to **Desmostylus** _regarding the name_ did not make it into the permanent record as a Warning and did not figure in his subsequent banning.) So, I think it is a stretch to say that simply calling **Lib** “Libertarian” (or “Liberaltarian”) is going to put anyone in jeopardy of imminent banishment, although a persistent habit of doing so is liable to be viewed without favor. I will admit that I really wish I had forgotten the incidents with **lissener** and **Desmo** (or remembered them more clearly) and not bothered to post my first comment in this thread. I had thought that it was a simple reminder to avoid a particular behavior known to be frowned upon and it has now turned into a _cause célèbre_. I’ll wander back to the staff room and see if I can discover a consensus regarding any “rules” regarding name abuse. I will note, however, that even if I have misapplied the _principle_ regarding names, we have long had a policy regarding harrassment and it is possible that deliberately _and persistently_ calling **Liberal** “Libertarian” may, indeed, be considered harrassment. That is hardly a special rule for **Lib** as we have warned people for other forms of harrassment of different posters, as well. [Moderator wanders off muttering to self] ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/259 "2005-09-24T22:06:10Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I’ll wander back to the staff room and see if I can discover a consensus regarding any “rules” regarding name abuse. For what it’s worth, any rule against variants on calling people Poopyhead are okay in my book. The way I see it: 1. There’s no good reason to do it; and 2. There’s a good reason not to do it. So if y’all want to make a new rule that there’s no mocking user’s names, that’s cool. (As long as you interpret it liberally–err, like a libertar–dammit!) Folks obviously shouldn’t get in trouble for calling me **Dorkness** , for example. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/260 "2005-09-24T22:06:42Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Doesn’t that mean they have to ban each other? Or at least suspend each other simultaneously? Hey, we all know that it’s REALLY hard to get the timing down for the simultaneous “suspension.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=14)