# Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863 "2005-09-22T11:19:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/21 "2005-09-22T13:37:48Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Glad you’re alive. Now fuck off. > [@don't ask](#): > > Welcome back, you are like the sunrise - a new day but the same old shit. > [@Merijeek](#): > > Just imagine what a dauntless soul one must be to come back to a place where every hand is turned against you! > > Or perhaps you’re just a whining bitch. > > Oh, yes, definitely that. > > Have fun until your banning. Awwww. You guys shouldn’t get all mushy like that. I’m tearing up here. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/22 "2005-09-22T13:40:41Z")
Ae hell with it. Welcome back, **Lib**!!! I missed you! And getting the family together for your wife - that sounds just wonderful! ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/23 "2005-09-22T13:48:54Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > That was not intended as a false quote, nor would anyone take it as such. That’s a fallacy. **Liberal** doesn’t need to prove that it _was_ intended to be a false quote; he only needs to prove that is _necessary for it to be_ intended as a false quote. We can show that it is so using logic. [ol] [li]If it was intended as a false quote, then it was necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, or it isn’t. [/li][li]If it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, then it is necessary that it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary that it’s intended as a false quote, or it’s necessary that it wasn’t necessarily intended to be a false quote. [/li][li]If it is necessary that it was not necessarily inteded to be a false quote, then it is necessary that it was not intended to be a false quote.[/li][li]Either it is necessary that it was intended to be a false quote, or it’s necessary that it wasn’t.[/li][li]It is necessary that it was inteded to be a false quote.[/li][li]If it is necessary for it to be a false quote, then it was a false quote.[/li][/ol] Thus, we can conclude that it WAS intended to be a false quote and **TubaDiva** and **C.K. Dexter Haven** both owe **Liberal** a MAJOR apology. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/24 "2005-09-22T13:52:31Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by UncleBeer > > I’m gonna predict this thread will go down in SDMB lore as one of the most unproductive ever. > > Perhaps. But it seemed to me that in the suspension thread, **Tuba** flouted the “No kicking a guy when he can’t respond” rule. I don’t think there is such a rule. **Liberal** can be counted on to pop into threads bashing the banned to mention that it lacks a certain class, but AFAIK it is still OK with the mods. But methinks **UncleBeer** is right. Nonetheless - On second thought, not. This ain’t going anywhere good. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/25 "2005-09-22T13:59:45Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > That’s a fallacy. **Liberal** doesn’t need to prove that it _was_ intended to be a false quote; he only needs to prove that is _necessary for it to be_ intended as a false quote. > > We can show that it is so using logic. > > [ol] > [li]If it was intended as a false quote, then it was necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, or it isn’t. [/li][li]If it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, then it is necessary that it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary that it’s intended as a false quote, or it’s necessary that it wasn’t necessarily intended to be a false quote. [/li][li]If it is necessary that it was not necessarily inteded to be a false quote, then it is necessary that it was not intended to be a false quote.[/li][li]Either it is necessary that it was intended to be a false quote, or it’s necessary that it wasn’t.[/li][li]It is necessary that it was inteded to be a false quote.[/li][li]If it is necessary for it to be a false quote, then it was a false quote.[/li][/ol] > > Thus, we can conclude that it WAS intended to be a false quote and **TubaDiva** and **C.K. Dexter Haven** both owe **Liberal** a MAJOR apology. Certainly can’t argue with that! ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/26 "2005-09-22T14:01:40Z")
Welcome back, **Liberal**! Hey, why is it that you changed your username from **Libertarian**? Backs away slowly… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/27 "2005-09-22T14:04:25Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > That’s a fallacy. **Liberal** doesn’t need to prove that it _was_ intended to be a false quote; he only needs to prove that is _necessary for it to be_ intended as a false quote. > > We can show that it is so using logic. > > [ol] > [li]If it was intended as a false quote, then it was necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, or it isn’t. [/li][li]If it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, then it is necessary that it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary that it’s intended as a false quote, or it’s necessary that it wasn’t necessarily intended to be a false quote. [/li][li]If it is necessary that it was not necessarily inteded to be a false quote, then it is necessary that it was not intended to be a false quote.[/li][li]Either it is necessary that it was intended to be a false quote, or it’s necessary that it wasn’t.[/li][li]It is necessary that it was inteded to be a false quote.[/li][li]If it is necessary for it to be a false quote, then it was a false quote.[/li][/ol] See, this is why I stay out of GD. I don’t have the chops to run with the big dogs on the logic track. > [@Metacom](#): > > Thus, we can conclude that it WAS intended to be a false quote and **TubaDiva** and **C.K. Dexter Haven** both owe **Liberal** a MAJOR apology. Doesn’t that mean they have to ban each other? Or at least suspend each other simultaneously? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/28 "2005-09-22T14:13:27Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Doesn’t that mean they have to ban each other? Or at least suspend each other simultaneously? No! No! Just imagine the runaway feedback loop! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/29 "2005-09-22T14:22:52Z")
\ Lib’s back, all right… ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/30 "2005-09-22T14:27:18Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t think there is such a rule. Well, it’s a policy at least, which some mod invokes in many banning threads. And if it isn’t a rule, it should be. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/31 "2005-09-22T14:45:07Z")
The tragedy, of course, is that **Lib’s** histrionic return is being upstaged by another [great bag of wind.](http://www.usairnet.com/weather/satellite/hurricane/?storm=Rita) ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/32 "2005-09-22T14:45:45Z")
Well at least he had a productive month. One wonders how much more he could have gotten done if he hadn’t spent so much time writing that post. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/33 "2005-09-22T14:53:14Z")
[quote] During my hiatus, some wonderful things happened. I got a lot of work done. I began corresponding with Dopers in calm and meaningful debates over focused issues. I got a lot of work done. [quote] So you got work done between calm meaningful debate huh? When did you learn to do that. > [@](#): > > And I engineered for my wife the surprise of her life, by bringing all the kids and grandchildren to our house from all over the country for her birthday. I’m sure they all appreciated the one last chance to say goodbye to Grandpa Blowhard before he goes to that big Speakers’ Corner in the sky. As do we do here, welcome back. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/34 "2005-09-22T14:58:51Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > During my hiatus, some wonderful things happened. I got a lot of work done. I began corresponding with Dopers in calm and meaningful debates over focused issues. I got a lot of work done. And I engineered for my wife the surprise of her life, by bringing all the kids and grandchildren to our house from all over the country for her birthday. Since you’ve discovered how rich and meaningful life is when you’re not here, one wonders why you’d come back. I’m just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/35 "2005-09-22T15:05:27Z")
Hello, Liberal, welcome back. As you’re aware, there are different standards for different people on this board. It’s the way things are; you either learn to accept it and work around it or bash your head against it until you fall down. Unfortunately, I feel you’re the type of person who’s isn’t going to be able to accept it and I predict the fall isn’t too far away. And I really do believe it’s unfortunate, because I think overall you contribute some value to this board. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/36 "2005-09-22T15:08:46Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Actually, it was near the end of a long paragraph in a quiet discussion I was having with Wring. And I went on to say that it was no big deal, that the universe is not real, and that there is no life in the atoms — the same thing I’ve said consistently for six years straight. You might have taken your evidence from RedFury, or one of the other screaming idjits, but certainly not from anything I’ve ever written. Considering that this board doesn’t actually exsist, you seem to be getting pretty worked up about it. Oh, well, either way, welcome back, you mad bastard. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/37 "2005-09-22T15:12:19Z")
This is **Libertarian** ’s favorite kind of thread: Ones about him! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/38 "2005-09-22T15:24:57Z")
> [@vibrotronica](#): > > This is **Libertarian** ’s favorite kind of thread: Ones about him! Agreed. A lot of people take the board _way_ too seriously. I think if this board is the most important thing in your life then you need to find more interests. I don’t pay a lot of attention to Liberal or any other poster in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/39 "2005-09-22T15:32:23Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > All you’ve succeeded in doing with this gaffe in judgment is to validate the claims of Biggirl, RedFury, and the anonymous cowards who gathered off-board to plan how to manipulate you (the proof of which you’ve either deleted or put in your hidden forum, but that I have on disk) and the rest of what they perceive as a hapless administration into getting rid of me. And spare me any martyr crap. If people really are plotting your demise, you’re not paranoid. Fifth floor: Tinfoil hats, Conspiracy theories, batshit ramblings… :: ding! :: ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/40 "2005-09-22T15:45:28Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Welcome back, **Liberal**! > > Hey, why is it that you changed your username from **Libertarian**? > > Backs away slowly… You know … I often see claims like “You owe me a new monitor/keyboard/whatever” and I always figured it was hyperbole. But I had just taken a big gulp lapsang souchong (sp?) with milk when I read this, and I can say that while you don’t owe me a keyboard or monitor, I’d appreciate if you could e-mail me a cup of detergent, so I can wash my now soaked and soiled white t-shirt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=3)